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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/263EEWV3W4SA72U5B2SESZ2TVMLKVJSC/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "CAN6TEUfkrBVbrL2CJMB1FB=yhBosmGjdetpMst93RTE8Hkktwg@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "263EEWV3W4SA72U5B2SESZ2TVMLKVJSC", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/ICCRXZ3G6MSZFZQKZ344R4HZPTAL7UJ4/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "amsat-bb (a) wd9ewk.net", "mailman_id": "21664df01bef4757931b7cdb42a9e768", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/21664df01bef4757931b7cdb42a9e768/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds, New Grids, and Chaos", "date": "2019-02-20T17:25:09Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/3MJ5PX3P5J5AFBHBZC2IQ4UZJFT5AWDZ/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/CD6HQW3V3R2FBJSYXXHX2HHLYZMPWEAD/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi!\n\nAMSAT may encourage this sort of operating, but let's not\nforget ARRL with its VUCC award, and the VUCC/r for those\ngoing out and working from other places - and there may be\nothers, too. N8HM is correct about how AMSAT's Rover Award\nencourages the use of linear transponders, but not as many\nare on those passes. Same with using packet or other non-FM\nmodes.\n\nA single-channel satellite will have crowds much of the\ntime. Compared to the days of AO-51 and AO-27 with their\n70cm downlinks, I think AO-91 and AO-92 with their 2m\ndownlinks have brought out larger crowds. Unless you're\non in the middle of the night, or operating in another\npart of the world with a small ham population (I saw\nthat in Australia a few years ago), it may be unrealistic\nto expect to do much more than quick QSOs on FM satellites.\nNew operators are regularly showing up on the FM passes.\n\nIt is fun to regularly hear DX stations on AO-91 and AO-92\npasses over the continental USA, something we really didn't\nhave as much when SO-50 was the only FM satellite we had\nfor a while. Is AMSAT a victim of its successes with AO-91\nand AO-92? Maybe. I'd rather be in the current situation than\na few years ago, when we only had SO-50, AO-7 and FO-29 (plus\nthe ISS digipeater) as our amateur satellite lineup.\n\nI like chasing grids from home, enjoy going out and working\nfrom wherever I happen to be, and I do a fair bit of promoting\nAMSAT and satellite operating at events. Crowds understand\nthat the single-channel FM satellites are going to be busy.\nThey also enjoy listening to those passes on their own radios\nduring the demonstrations - the best way to show how easy\nit is to hear AO-91 and AO-92 downlinks, and previously AO-85.\nMost in the crowds also understand there are some times where\nit would be easier to get through than other times. And there's\nalways the opportunities to experiment with stations. Even if\nI don't make a QSO on a given pass, it is still fun to try\ndifferent things.\n\n73!\n\n\n\n\nPatrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK\nhttp://www.wd9ewk.net/\nTwitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOn Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 4:32 PM Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> AMSAT explicitly encourages grid chasing with it's new award system.\n>\n> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019, 11:30:09 AM EST, Jerry Buxton <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> Not to deter grid chasing and awards, does every FM bird have to be that\n> way? I do miss my start with \"portable stuff\" a decade or so ago, and\n> just having quick QSOs with new contacts on SO-50 from the pizzeria\n> parking lot when I visited Mom and Dad...\n>\n> Jerry Buxton, NØJY\n>\n> On 2/19/2019 21:02, Bob wrote:\n> > I can tell you from personal experience as a satellite mentor, giving\n> > presentations which always excite potential new satellite users, then\n> > having them go into the field to experience the bedlam of a FM Satellite,\n> > that they too often become discouraged and give up. Easysat is a very\n> > deceptive name, especially on weekends.\n> >\n> > 73, Bob, WB4SON\n> > _______________________________________________\n>\n>\n", "attachments": [] }