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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/2CINCSJRG7RUZPVXUMO2PNJTCVFQP4WD/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "2CINCSJRG7RUZPVXUMO2PNJTCVFQP4WD", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/2CINCSJRG7RUZPVXUMO2PNJTCVFQP4WD/", "sender": { "address": "gabrielzeifman (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Gabriel Zeifman", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Fwd: Dupe contacts on SO-50", "date": "2017-04-17T18:50:06Z", "parent": null, "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/NG25UR5NO5M755SAYRPLFXNAA7SYZ32W/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "> \n> I think the issue Tucker raises is more when veteran sat ops try to discuss their DXpedition to Pitcairn on a busy SO-50 pass. I think everyone supports new blood, even when they fumble. \n> \n> 73,\n> Gabe\n> NJ7H\n> \n>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:08 PM, R.T.Liddy <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> \n>> Tucker W4FS,\n>> \n>> \n>> First, you are far from being a curmudgeon! You'll have to put\n>> in many years of crankiness before you can claim that title.\n>> \n>> You raise a point that has persisted for quite a while regarding\n>> FM Satellites. Experienced operators usually follow the proper\n>> protocol/etiquette on the single-channel resource. They rarely\n>> chit-chat unless the bird is idle. As with anything else, newbies\n>> are learning the ropes.\n>> \n>> The FM SATs, as we all know, are where the new folks start out\n>> because they are easy due to readily available equipment. These\n>> operators are trying to figure everything out at once - the frequencies,\n>> the antennas, the PL, the AOS/LOS/AZ/EL, the protocol, etc., etc.\n>> \n>> Until they figure all of these things out, the rest of the users are\n>> going to have to endure problems of various kinds. It's the utter\n>> reality of the situation. However, they are the \"new blood\" that\n>> we need to keep this aspect of the hobby growing.\n>> \n>> And, believe it or not, not all SAT Ops are Grid Chasers. Some only\n>> care about the thrill of pointing a signal up toward the sky and\n>> saying hello to someone via something flying through Space. We have\n>> no choice but to co-exist in this environment. It is what it is.\n>> \n>> A good primer for new operators can be found on John K8YSE's website\n>> at: http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html\n>> \n>> All we can do is be good examples for the new/other users. When someone\n>> is operating from a rare Grid and we already have it confirmed, stay clear. If the\n>> pileup dies down and no one is calling, it's perfectly fine to say a quick hello\n>> to let them know they are being heard. During routine passes, if you hear a new\n>> Call, it's nice to give them a shout so they get the operating experience.\n>> \n>> 73 & GL 2 All, Bob K8BL\n>> \n>> ________________________________\n>> \n>> \n>> \n>> \n>>>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Tucker McGuire <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>> \n>>> \n>> \n>>> Hello space bird enthusiasts,\n>> \n>>> \n>> \n>>> I have noticed that certain stations on busy SO-50 passes work the same\n>> \n>>> stations that they have worked on many previous passes when they are in the\n>> \n>>> same grid. Dupe contacts.\n>> \n>>> \n>> \n>>> This can prevent and has prevented other stations from trying to work new\n>> \n>>> grids that happen to be on or perhaps prevented them from working a new guy\n>> \n>>> that hasn't been on the satellites before. On quiet passes I see no issues\n>> \n>>> with working the same station you've worked hundreds of times before but on\n>> \n>>> busy SO-50 passes it is just disruptive.\n>> \n>>> \n>> \n>>> Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but that's my two cents.\n>> \n>>> \n>> \n>>> Cheers & 73,\n>> \n>>> Tucker\n>> \n>>> W4FS\n>> \n>>> _______________________________________________\n>> \n>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> \n>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>> \n>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> \n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> \n>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> \n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> \n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>> \n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> \n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> \n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n", "attachments": [] }