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    "sender_name": "Lee Maisel",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ESA lunar probe",
    "date": "2011-11-08T06:28:11Z",
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    "content": "\n\nI don't see why Hams couldn't be involved in the design of the communications for the probe...\n\nOn Nov 5, 2011, at 11:11 AM, R Oler <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> \n> I wrote:  (and the time delay makes it well a unique form of transportation)..transportation should obviously be \"communication\".\n> \n> the reality of a lunar transponder (or even a packet system) would be that it would encourage a lot of things that the FM sats do not...and discourage a lot of bad things...it wont happen I know because of a lot of reasons...but it would change our hobby and the satellite part of it for the better.  RGO WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL NARS \n> \n> sent from my IPAD\n> \n> From: [email protected]\n> To: [email protected]\n> CC: [email protected]\n> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ESA lunar probe\n> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:59:48 -0500\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> Bob...its been done here a zillion times...it wont be done with an HT and a small yagi...it will however be possible whereas a \"Mars\" effort is really not possible for anyone except \"Goldstone class\" stations (and the time delay makes it well a unique form of transportation).  A small linear transponder with some horizon omni gain antennas would be a challenge, but it would be easier then moonbounce Robert G. Oler WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL NARS\n> \n> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:54:32 +0000\n> From: [email protected]\n> To: [email protected]\n> CC: [email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ESA lunar probe\n> \n> \n> \n> Just for the sake of conversation and thinking.  What would the link budget look like for a transponder on the moon.  \n> \n> Bob W7LRD\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> From: \"R Oler\" <[email protected]>\n> To: \"Amsat BB\" <[email protected]>\n> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 4:10:00 PM\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] ESA lunar probe\n> \n> \n> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15574653\n> \n> to bad there cant be an amateur radio payload even a really small one...this probe should be \"longer lived\" then most as it should have a constant energy source...\n> \n> Wonder why the Europeans are thinking of sending Phase 5A to Mars?  It will probably never fly and almost no hams can be a part of that...so well why not send it to L2 in the Earth Moon systems...a halo orbit...\n> \n> Robert G. Oler WB5MZO Life Member AMSAT ARRL NARS\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n>                                                   \n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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