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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/3F2FCQVJUEGTF5UT424GZGMRZCGWEJ7Y/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "3F2FCQVJUEGTF5UT424GZGMRZCGWEJ7Y", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/LPNUTKGHWXJYIY2CUB4TFTL4LLTNEH5R/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "vk3jed (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "e049fcabdd4648088cd7ce227ab7c655", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/e049fcabdd4648088cd7ce227ab7c655/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Tony Langdon", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Easy to make, low cost omni-directional antennae", "date": "2008-03-27T20:12:00Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/LPNUTKGHWXJYIY2CUB4TFTL4LLTNEH5R/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/SLO7OXZV3ARBFT2B6U5M5EO3VD7ZAEFF/?format=api", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/WAEFI4C2NCXXSPG2TK75MWTEAIK6PMGW/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "At 06:17 AM 3/28/2008, Bill Dzurilla wrote:\n\n>Have not tried the Lindenblad. Not many are using it\n>or talking about it, so I doubt it is all that great.\n>Same for the turnstile.\n\nThe Lindenblad is said to be quite good, but requires a bit more \nmechanical work to build.\n\n>I do far better with a 5w HT and a handheld Arrow than\n>I do with an IC-7000, ARR preamp, and any of the omnis\n>I have tried. However, unlike some people, I don't\n\nA directional antenna really does improve things on 70cm.\n\n>If you do go omni, get it high enough to be in the\n>clear. And unless you get a preamp, use very good\n>coax and keep the line as short as possible. You can\n>get a 70cm receive-only preamp from Ramsey Electronics\n>for $17, but with that you'll need a separate coax\n>line for the 2m uplink, or a duplexer. The ARR is the\n>cheapest RF switching preamp and it's over $125.\n\nI wouldn't bother with a switching preamp, unless you're planning on \nusing the omni for transmitting (e.g. for working the ISS \nrepeater). You certainly don't need a switching preamp to work any \nof the Mode J birds, because the uplink is on a different band, and \nyou want full duplex capability if you can have it. In any case, a \ngood masthead preamp is a must for omnis.\n\n\n>I also homebrewed one of Kent's dual band LEO cheap\n>yagis, see\n>http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf.\n>It can be built for $10 and it works as good or better\n>than the far more expensive expensive Arrow, although\n\nI have had a lot of success with a homebrew directional \nantenna. Only reason I would consider an Arrow is for the \nportability as you mention.\n\n>Have not tried this, but I'm almost certain that a\n>cheap yagi mounted at a fixed 20-30 degree elevation\n>and rotated with an old TV rotator will be less\n>expensive and give substantially better results than\n>any omni, even an omni with a preamp.\n\nI have heard this can work well, though I've never tried it. You \nwill want to make sure that the Yagi only has moderate gain, as you \nwill need a fairly wide pattern, so that the satellite can still be \non the edge of the main lobe at high elevation.\n\n73 de VK3JED\nhttp://vkradio.com\n\n", "attachments": [] }