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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/3HBPIVS4L46LZ4OTKFGNJBAXBGXURVBD/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "3HBPIVS4L46LZ4OTKFGNJBAXBGXURVBD", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/FEBDCQJ3PAKZ6UFGO4JPZNHRAZYXDDMR/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "k7zt (a) cox.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Joe Westbrook", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E", "date": "2006-09-09T03:41:33Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/WHRLEVVRHXWVL5QFMQ3RNACZEWAIJN47/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/3GT3GJ6PBGBTPJ2JZGEGKZ45EEPWXRZT/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "It appears that Engineering has draw a line in the sand.\n\nBob states:\n\"I offer the following. If the board votes to change their vision\nstatement and not to build the spacecraft we are proposing, I will\ntender my resignation as VP Engineering since I will have failed to do\nthe job they elected me to which was to produce a usable concept to\nmeet their vision.\"\n\nHe speaks of \"Leadership\" but I would argue that a leader doesn't threaten \nto quit if he fails to get his way, he sticks with the task at hand. The \nObjectives have changed as originally stated and it appears that the design \nteam is closed to entertaining any further ideas.\nSad.\n\n In 1980 I was in the USAF assigned to the UK. I attended the RSGB's \nConference at the ole Ali Pali in North London. My first exposure to \nAmateur Satellite Service was with the AMSAT-UK Contingent who were \nrepresented there. I will never forget the cold reception this young (Yank) \nHam received from the AMSAT folks. I came to the conclusion then that this \nwas an elitist group and I held that stereotype until I attended a Ham in \nAustin, TX in 2003.\n\n The AMSAT Coordinator for Austin, TX was at the Hamfest, he had a demo set \nup for AO-40 and I watched the contacts he made with other hams and I was \nhooked. This gentleman was very helpful. He patiently answered all of my \nquestions. That day, I purchased a downconverter and Bar-B-Que dish from \nBob (K5GNA) and proceeded to get on AO-40. I have to say that is without a \ndoubt the most fun I have had with Ham Radio (39 years). My small dish and \nhelix antenna are still up on the mast ready for the next HEO Bird. I do \nremember working the RS Satellites with relative little difficulty earlier, \nwith little mentoring , or cash out lay. What happened to just having fun \non Ham Radio? AO-40 was just challenging enough, I constructed my own \nantennas, read all of the many on-line recourses available to learn how to \nsqueeze as much signal as possible on the S Band downlink. I remembered \nreliving the same types of experiences I had as a Novice making my first \ncontacts.\n\nBased on some of the post on this BB, I can't help but think that this \ncontentious issue is more about having antenna real estate, power budget, \nthat support new applications. The increased noise is simply a red herring \nfor those with more ambitious goals.\n\nI don't claim to speak for the rank and file, this is my opinion based \nlargely on recent post to the AMSAT BB.\n\nRegards,\n- Joe K7ZT\n\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>\nSent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:55 PM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E\n\n\n>\n> I wrote:\n>\n> If AMSAT-NA is building sats in close circle they just have to openly \n> admitted it\n> even if admission is not a very spoken word.\n>\n> Things seems to evoluate! and evolution often passed by revolution. We \n> learn once upon the time\n> years ago some south the border choose to make a revolution as they seems \n> it was the only one way\n> to achieve their goals. Are we starting to learn from the past?\n>\n> He wrote\n>\n>> I am not interested in flying a carbon copy of P3E\n>> when I know it makes no sense whatsoever.\n>\n> I wrote:\n>\n> Who is driving AMSAT-NA an hollow BOD? an hollow president? Or a third \n> builders\n> manipulating wing\n> who blackmail the BOD?\n>\n> None of them? I let the conclusion yours!\n>\n>\n> He wrote:\n>\n>>If elected to the board, and it changes\n>> direction, I will offer my seat to the first alternate.\n>\n>\n> He wrote:\n>\n>\n> > I am 52 years old and one of\n>> the most active technical contributors in all of amateur radio\n>\n> I wrote:\n>\n> Even the Goa'Uld the self proclaim gods can be replaced.... And i wrote \" \n> but your involvement is\n> not questioned here\" no more blackmail please we used to be sick of this. \n> It is a burden AMSAT-NA\n> pull since too many years now, it is openly admitted and publicly show \n> today. Remember why they\n> celebrate on the 4th of July? an evolution or a revolution or both?\n>\n> To concluded the truth FINALLY came out. Now AMSAT-NA BOD what you will do \n> with a majority of your\n> members who wants to have S band downlink on Eagle? Nothing is perfect in \n> the communication field\n> why not simply build for this time a KISS HEO? As per this very clear text \n> it seems we are going\n> towards an evoluted cube type satellite who will be very far from AO-40 \n> and where room seems to be\n> scarce.\n>\n> My humble suggestion U/V S downlink and if there is still enough room an \n> experimental mode.\n> No switching is bad as it kills S mode downlink to only named this one.\n>\n> My financial service providers want to sell a special products but my \n> client wants another one.\n> Even if they asked me to pushed their prefer products client wants \n> something else.\n>\n> After numerous discussion he finally agree that it is better to sell and \n> deliver something than\n> waiting for the few interested ones to buy their prefer one.\n>\n> All is a matter of choice and please BOD try to listen your membership \n> just in case some can came\n> back!\n>\n> We are speaking marketing here not science. Give what's the client desire \n> once you will gain his\n> trust you will able to do great things after and with his support.\n>\n> Amen!\n>\n> \"-\"\n> The medium is the message...The content is the audience...;)\n>\n> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\n> Skype VE2DWE\n> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n\n", "attachments": [] }