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    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds, New Grids, and Chaos",
    "date": "2019-02-22T05:58:16Z",
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    "content": " \nWell said NJ4Y.  Not taking sides or anything like that, but \"good operating practice\" is always the best ! \n\nAnd speaking of incredible, making that rare DX QSO via a sat that is 1000+ kms around AOS, LOS and low angle passes with a 5 watt HT continues to astound everyone around here... and in fact it is the only reason for switching from HF to LEOs. \n\n\n73!Umesh\n\n\n\n\n\n    On Thursday, February 21, 2019, 7:15:44 PM PST, Matthew Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:  \n \n When I first started out on sats a couple years ago, I had a single half\nduplex HT and a borrowed arrow. I listened to two or three passes of so50\nand ao85 (the only fm sats available at the time), before ever even trying\nto work anyone. The passes were pretty hectic, with NPOTA stations and\nrovers, and callsigns getting thrown around. My first contact was a few\ndays later with Fernando, NP4JV who knew I was going to be on and answered\nmy call when I finally got brave enough to throw it out there. I've had my\nshare of irritating passes, missed contacts, getting up at three in the\nmorning to work a 2 deg pass and getting stomped out by somebody calling cq\nwho couldn't hear the sat well enough to even tell people were calling\nhim... And - getting up at 2 in the morning for a different pass and not\nmaking a contact with station in Spain because I thought I knew what I was\ndoing, but really didn't... that's good motivation to practice and learn :-)\n\nIt was all fun, part of the challenge of learning a new skill. The coolness\nof talking to people through a thing that's flying around 400km over my\nhead with an HT or an 817 is still incredible.\n\nSo I personally don't understand the idea of people getting scared away\nfrom sats because of crazy passes. Sure, it can get hectic. Sure, we all\ncomplain when somebody transmits a carrier over the entire pass and nobody\nmakes any contacts. But, that's all just going to be part of the ham radio\nexperience! The same thing happens on HF, during CQWW it gets crazy but\nI've never heard anyone say that \"scares new ops away.\" Sometimes its a\nzoo, other times it's not. Seems to me that people who are really\ninterested and want to learn, grow, and enjoy operating stick with it. The\nones who get spooked and never come back, more than likely would have\neventually lost interest for some other reason (in my observation.) If I am\npersonally helpful to new ops; and exhibit good operating practice myself,\nthen there is no reason for me to get upset by what some other lid does on\n(or off) the air. Let's try to encourage good operating practice, rather\nthan just complaining about all the perceived problems on the sats.\n\n- Matthew nj4y\n\n\n\n  \n",
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