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    "sender_name": "Jeff Moore",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Brief summary of the \"unauthorized expenses\" claim",
    "date": "2020-07-14T01:29:07Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/YWF7DXOAUYDWZRRV6T3K6F63ETHMIGNM/?format=api",
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    "content": "IF the BoD approved the expenses, why isn't that reflected in OFFICIAL\ndocumentation???\n\nSeems to me the incumbents are playing fast and loose with the facts\nhere!!!!\n\n3 rd party investigation is called for to get at the REAL truth!   Then let\nthe chips fall where they may!\n\n7   3\nJeff Moore  --  KE7ACY\n\n\nOn Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:15 PM Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Let me clarify:\n>\n> I said \"the board said the expenses were authorized.\"\n>\n> I didn't say \"the board directly authorized the expenses\"\n>\n> The implication is that the officers authorized the expenses and the board\n> was OK with that.  And since it's up to the board to decide what the\n> officers can or can't authorize, the fact that they said that the expenses\n> were authorized should be sufficient.\n>\n> Rich\n>\n>\n> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:46 PM Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> >\n> > But even in your own evaluation there are contradictions.\n> >\n> > Quote from your email: \"If an expense went to the board for approval, it\n> > would show up in the\n> >   minutes of that board meeting.\"\n> >\n> > Further down your email: \"- In this case, the members of the AMSAT board\n> > at the time said that the\n> >   expenses were authorized.\"\n> >\n> >\n> > Then, by your own evaluation of the by-laws, if the members of the board\n> > authorized the expenditures (second quote), shouldn't that authorization\n> > show up in the minutes of the board meeting? (first quote)\n> >\n> > Steve AI9IN\n> >\n> >\n> > ----- Original Message -----\n> > From: Rich Gopstein via AMSAT-BB ([email protected])\n> > Date: 07/13/20 15:25\n> > To: Amsat - BBs ([email protected])\n> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Brief summary of the \"unauthorized expenses\" claim\n> >\n> > First: I'm not a lawyer.  These are my observations only.\n> >\n> > This is what I learned over the past few days while researching the claim\n> > that the AMSAT money spent on legal services related to the new directors\n> > was \"unauthorized\".\n> >\n> >   - I read the AMSAT bylaws.  They are very readable, BTW - and not long.\n> >   - The bylaws say that expenses can be authorized either by the board\n> >   itself or by the officers of AMSAT if the board delegates that\n> authority.\n> >   - If an expense went to the board for approval, it would show up in the\n> >   minutes of that board meeting.\n> >   - If an expense were authorized by an officer, then it wouldn't show up\n> >   in the minutes of a board meeting.\n> >   - The claim that the expenses were unauthorized was based on the\n> >   observation that there was no record in the board meeting minutes of\n> the\n> >   authorization.  However, as mentioned above, not everything has to go\n> to\n> >   the board for approval.  And that decision is up to the board itself.\n> >   - In this case, the members of the AMSAT board at the time said that\n> the\n> >   expenses were authorized.\n> >   - Since the board has the authority to authorize expenditures (directly\n> >   or indirectly) and they say the expenses were authorized, that\n> indicates\n> > to\n> >   me that the expenses were authorized.\n> >\n> > Note: Michelle and Patrick were not members of the board when this\n> > happened.  They were analyzing this after the fact.\n> >\n> > Rich\n> > KD2CQ\n> > AMSAT Life Member\n> > _______________________________________________\n> >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> > expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> > AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n",
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