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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/56MU2BGR7BQ27Y7II5G5XZVTIQXEG5J4/?format=api",
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        "address": "stargatesg1 (a) verizon.net",
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    "sender_name": "Stargate",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations",
    "date": "2008-05-29T23:36:11Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/5DVPABYEOYIO5HK4HQSIPWFQC7XVZL2K/?format=api",
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    "content": "Actually, I would like to put a different slant on it.\nCollecting the data, even from a purely scientific mission,\ngives hams a chance to provide valuable downlink time for LEO\nsatellites at all times.\nAs for me, this gives me the feeling of being part of the scientific\nprocess.\n\njust my .02 worth.\n\n73's\n\nRoD\nKD0XX\n\n\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On\n> Behalf Of Ernie Howard\n> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:17 PM\n> To: [email protected]\n> Cc: [email protected]\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations\n>\n>\n> Amen, there is an excess on here for some reason. Maybe the\n> reason is they\n> have too much idle time and are not doing anything productive?\n>\n> Ernie\n>\n> Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> >> There seems to be a proliferation of satellites\n> >> using the Amateur bands as cheap down links,\n> >> and using Radio Amateurs as a cheap way of\n> >> collecting their data. It is MY personal belief\n> >> that a satellite should only use our hard-earned\n> >> and much coveted frequencies if they REALLY do\n> >> carry an Amateur Radio payload... I.E.\n> >> a Transponder!\n> >\n> > While I too like to see transponders, I do not like to see all\n> > the negativizim, hate and rabble-rousing against those who\n> > actually get something into space.  The self-richeous nay-saying\n> > comments are about as practical as these:\n> >\n> > \"Those HF contesters should not be using the Amateur Bands, they\n> > should be passing useful communications or traffic!\"\n> >\n> > \"Those Traffic passers are not real amateur operators, because\n> > they will not respond with QSL's!\"\n> >\n> > \"Those old fud rag chewers on HF think they own the frequency.\n> > They should let others use the frequency for more useful\n> > communications\"\n> >\n> > \"Those FM commuters are just wasting air time, saying the same\n> > old thing every day.  Why don't they just use a cell phone!\"\n> >\n> > \"Those AM guys are just wasting 6 KHz of spectrum, they should\n> > be made illegal on the amateur bands\"\n> >\n> > \"Who wants to look at all those SSTV pictures,  Its just the\n> > same old post-card!  They should not be using 3 KHz of bandwidth\n> > for such stupid applications\"...\n> >\n> > \"Those Winlink guys are killing amateur radio by turning the\n> > bands into an automatic communications system.\"\n> >\n> > \"Those Echolink and IRLP links are bad for ham radio.  Why don't\n> > they just use HF or a phone if they want to talk to someone far\n> > away.\"\n> >\n> > \"Those Radio control Airplanes operating on the Amateur band\n> > should never be there, they are not communications\".\n> >\n> > \"Those experimental Balloons just transmit pictures and\n> > telemetry, without a transponder, they have no purpose in\n> > Amateur Radio\"\n> >\n> > And on and on...\n> >\n> > Face, it.. Ham radio is as rich in applications as there are\n> > innovative and resourceful people.  If you want something done,\n> > then go do it.  If you don't like what others are doing with\n> > their hobby, then get out of the way.\n> >\n> > Public negativizim and constant complaining never accomplishes\n> > anything except darken our collective hobby.  Save that for the\n> > politicians who are supposed to respond to their constituents.\n> > For a hobby that is just the collective \"us\" with each licensed\n> > individual having the same equal opportunities as everyone else,\n> > complaining about what others do is just pointless.\n> >\n> > Bob, WB4APR\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur\n> satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n>\n> --\n>\n> ------------------------------------------------------\n> Ernie Howard, Jr    W8EH    Middletown, Ohio\n> E-mail: [email protected]\n> ------------------------------------------------------\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n",
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