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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/6LVK7WJWXII224OCR445N6VJP5VJDPLU/",
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        "address": "ko6th_greg (a) hotmail.com",
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    "sender_name": "Greg D.",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E",
    "date": "2006-09-10T20:20:14Z",
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    "content": "Not likely; I have absolute faith that the design team doesn't work that \nway.\n\nBut, I am curious what is being proposed.  Is there a link to the current \nthinking on what this equipment will consist of?  I didn't see anything on \nEaglePedia, but there are a lot of nooks and cranies in there and I might \nhave missed it...\n\nGreg  KO6TH\n\n\n----Original Message Follows----\nFrom: \"Eric H. Christensen\" <[email protected]>\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: S band downlink on P3E\nDate: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:41:14 -0400\n\nWho is designing the ground equipment?  It sounds like someone has a\nget-rich-quick scheme up their sleeve...\n\n73s,\nEric KF4OTN\[email protected]\nhttp://www.ericsatcom.net\n\n\nQuoting AL7CR <[email protected]>:\n\n > I too totally agree.  I see no reason why we can not vote on the\n > designers decision with our support dollars.  Personally, I am giving\n > all mine to P3E.\n >\n > The fact that they are \"designing the ground equipment too\" is of no\n > comfort to me.  My S band gear is on the tower and operating.\n >\n > If AMSAT thinks this is such a great decision then let them find the\n > money to support it without the majority of us.\n >\n > Dean Shutt\n > AL7CR\n >\n >\n > [email protected] wrote:\n >> I totally agree with you.\n >>\n >> Les W4SCO\n >>\n >> At 02:38 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:\n >>\n >>> Rick,\n >>>\n >>> I am in _TOTAL_ agreement. I live in the suburbs of Tampa/St. Pete\n >>>  and never\n >>> had an interference problem on my 3 foot dish. I have used the same \ndish to\n >>> log well over a dozen WiFi access points in that immediate \nneighborhood.\n >>> With properly designed equipment, all that trash on 2.4 ghz goes away \nwith\n >>> some elevation. What won't work is helixes with multiple sidelobes, and\n >>> surplus dishes that let one whole polarity of noise right thru the \nback.\n >>>\n >>> Everyone knows I'm a big supporter of AMSAT, but I gotta call it as I \nsee\n >>> it. It makes me think of \"bait and switch\" to collect money for a \nproject\n >>> featuring such a popular mode and then drop it.\n >>>\n >>> The loss of Mode B on AO-40 caused a lot of the hardcore AO-10/AO-13 \ntypes\n >>> to walk away, and that was tough to overcome. Now that we have, and we \nhave\n >>> people wanting S band, we leave them behind too. Even if it's a sound\n >>> engineering decision (and that hasn't been proven to me) it's a horrid\n >>> marketing decision. Bad mojo for a organization that lives on the \ndonations\n >>> of it's members.\n >>>\n >>> Sorry if this causes any pain to those involved with Eagle, but I \nneeded to\n >>> get it off my chest.\n >>>\n >>> 73, Drew KO4MA\n >>> AMSAT LM 2332\n >>>\n >>>\n >>>\n >>>> While AO-40 was still alive and I was working it from deep within \n\"Silicon\n >>>> Valley\", an area blanketed by WiFi, 2.4GHz cordless phones, etc., I\n >>>> discovered that a parabolic dish with a properly positioned and \ndesigned\n >>>> patch feed (slightly under-illuminating the dish and having no \nsignificant\n >>>> side-lobes) would bring in AO-40's S-band downlink very nicely\n >>>> and cleanly.\n >>>\n >>>> Of course, other feed or antenna types such as helical antennas/feeds \nwere\n >>>> useless in that environment.\n >>>\n >>>> I have to admit that I don't buy the \"too noisy\" argument.\n >>>\n >>>> 73,\n >>>\n >>>> Rick\n >>>> KG6IAL\n >>>\n >>>\n >>>\n >>>\n >>> _______________________________________________\n >>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the \nauthor.\n >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \nprogram!\n >>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n >>\n >>\n >>\n >>\n >> _______________________________________________\n >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \nprogram!\n >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n >>\n >>\n >\n > _______________________________________________\n > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \nprogram!\n > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n >\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n",
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