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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/6MOODAUT3O3WIPAHLWFDYWW4YICXZYFU/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/ORSIUT6HVHKOEVQCCXAJBSTPXN5GFHRN/",
    "sender": {
        "address": "daniel (a) destevez.net",
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    "sender_name": "Dani EA4GPZ",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Why 6 digit grid locator in Europe?",
    "date": "2016-02-17T23:05:47Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ORSIUT6HVHKOEVQCCXAJBSTPXN5GFHRN/",
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        "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/RTX7LLGZPO37WJ24RLRPTZAJY5W55QO4/"
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    "content": "El 17/02/16 a las 08:20, Juan Antonio Fernandez escribió:\n> I can´t understand it.\n> My thinking:\n> - Any award needs 6 digits\n> \n> - Time on SATs is limited, Why to waste it trying to understand something\n> useless\n> \n> - Other places, such as USA, only use 4 digits from years\n> \n> - To wrap up, all are advantages\n>\n> Anybody knows some reason why should we follow using 6 digits?\n> \n> If there is not a strong reason, I think we should start using 4 digits\n\nDear all,\n\nI would like to go even further. A valid contact is defined as one where\nthere has been exchange over the air of:\n\n- Both callsigns\n- The signal report\n- A confirmation of the reception of these (usually a roger or 73 will do)\n\nAt least it's written that way in the IARU R1 VHF manager's handbook.\n\nAn exchange of grid locators is not required to make a contact valid.\n\nI don't follow all the awards, but I'm not aware of any awards that\nactually require grid locators to be exchanged over the air to make the\ncontact count for the award. Sure you need to track grid locators if you\nare after VUCC, but you can get the grid locators by qrz.com/email/qsl\ncards/etc. It's not needed that you get them on the air.\n\nIt bothers me especially on FM sats, where time is shared between all\nthe operators and many times people insist in repeating their 6 digit\nlocators several times because of difficult conditions. This is just a\nwaste of time.\n\nOf course I want to put the grid locators on my logbook, but most of the\ntime the locators I get on the air are just the same that are listed on\nqrz.com, so I could just get them there.\n\nIn especial conditions, such as if you're operating portable and the\nsatellite is not busy (read as only 3 or less people), then it may make\nsome sense to pass the 4 or 6 digit locator over the air. But please,\ndon't repeat it several times as you struggle to make a contact in\ndifficult conditions.\n\nThis is less of a problem in linear sats, because time is not shared\nbetween all the operators. Still, the same reasons for not passing the\nlocator at all are valid.\n\nSo, my suggestion is: Please, don't pass the grid locator at all, except\nin especial conditions.\n\n73,\n\nDani EA4GPZ.\n\n",
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