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        "address": "jeff (a) mock.com",
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    "sender_name": "Jeff Mock",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: gpredict",
    "date": "2008-01-29T16:44:46Z",
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    "content": "Nate Duehr wrote:\n> On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:32 PM, don wrote:\n> \n>> The PDP series ran unix, and I still have the original Bell System\n>> Journals here at home describing the philosophy and design behind the\n>> unix system. I tried over the last few days of re reading these  \n>> journals\n>> to find any reference to the denigrating of any other systems or their\n>> users... Are linux users and prophets now straying far from the  \n>> original\n>> tracks for unix?\n> \n> http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/commandline/index.html\n> \n> Reading it, anyone can gain huge insights into the \"OS Business\" as  \n> well as some very personal insights about why people like/dislike, or  \n> use particular OS's -- and perhaps even how silly that all is, when  \n> it's all said and done.\n> \n > [,,,]\n\nThose are great references, I'll add one more the relates to the whiny \nposter's point that Linux has lost its way and strayed from the original \nUnix philosophy.  Rob Pike gave a hilarious talk way back in 1983 called \n\"cat -v considered harmful\" that makes the same point about Unix \nbecoming bloated and being \"the victim of cancerous growth\":\n\n    http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/\n\nManaging growth of a complex software system is really difficult.  The \ngood part about Unix/Linux is that the conversation happens out in the \nopen from a wide range of viewpoints rather than an edict from the back \nroom of a monolithic corporation.\n\nLinux makes me much more productive.  I look back on my last two \nprojects.  Most recently I designed a spectrometer for the radio \ntelescope in Arecibo.  I used Linux as the OS in the spectrometer and as \nthe OS on the server machines that store the data.  This let me focus on \nbeing a chip designer and most of the systems problems were easily \nsolved with Linux.  This project is open for all to see:\n     http://www.mock.com/pdev\n\nPrior to that I was a chip designer on the team that designed the \ngraphics chip for the Nintendo Wii.  We used Linux extensively as the \nplatform for the simulation and test environment.  It was a large \ncomplex design and Linux was a fantastic platform for a large design \nproject with lots of custom test software.\n\nFor me, Linux is a reliable and useful tool that makes me much more \nproductive, but you should use whatever works well for you.\n\njeff\n\n",
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