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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/A5C45ATOBFBS4HKS2KSEUE2BKMAL5RRO/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CAAuTjRYDDBYsroV_sn=pqHUh_Zzp7gnhkY5Pw4ziGuuCe+fTcw@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "A5C45ATOBFBS4HKS2KSEUE2BKMAL5RRO", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/2K7Q76UL27AH5XJ4BQCQH37WO76K5XB3/", "sender": { "address": "mike (a) hrdsoftwarellc.com", "mailman_id": "8373eee26afc454b837c9938cdf6cad0", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/8373eee26afc454b837c9938cdf6cad0/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE", "subject": "[AMSAT-BB] Re: Ham Radio Deluxe question", "date": "2021-11-06T01:34:53Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/SQ4OFVKEI3CEBA2QLN42GHDDZC3HRJVO/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Doug, thanks... I'm very grateful for your comments. I'll respond to you\ndirectly.\n\nThis is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.\n\nWhile I've been a ham for 47 years, I'm still a Novice when it comes to\nsatellites. Glad to have whatever help I can get.\n\nMike, WA9PIE, VK4EIE\n\nOn Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 5:04 AM Doug McCommins <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Mike:\n>\n> Thank you for your email.\n>\n> Quite pleased you joined the satellite group; lots of fun.\n>\n> There are several satellite operators like myself who are using both HRD\n> for the satellite tracking, next pases, etc. (HRD has very nice graphics)\n> and SatPC 32 as the engine to run the doppler control on the radio\n> (especially the IC-9700) via CAT control along with the rotor control via\n> USB.\n>\n> Recommend acquiring SatPC32 and perform a side by side software comparison\n> on a WIN10 PC. SatPC32 does have a learning curve, but at the end of the\n> day it works quite well for doppler control on FM, and linear birds along\n> with the rotor control (flip mode, 720 degree mode, models and controllers,\n> etc.). Erich is very responsive and supportive of the software.\n>\n> My experience with HRD and issues with the program relate to the doppler\n> and rotor control.\n>\n> - HRD doppler control:\n> - FM - Passable. Radio performing most of the dopper control.\n> - Linear - Manual Control via the radio VFO is sluggish and\n> eventually will lock up.\n> - Difficult to \"find yourself\" and execute minor uplink\n> adjustments to stay on frequency.\n> - HRD Rotor control - Passable - But is sluggish and rotor gauges\n> have a significant lag.\n>\n> My station is an IC-9700, M2 LEO arrays, Green Heron Controller with a\n> Yaesu G5500 (also have a 12PRSAT from Portable Rotators for rover/Field Day\n> work).\n>\n> If I can be of any assistance, please let me know as I would be happy to\n> participate in your endeavors.\n> However, I am not a SW programmer.\n>\n> 73,\n> Doug\n> WA6RLR\n> [email protected]\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:39 AM Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n>\n>> Right! I'm pretty sure that's why this is a 'hobby'. (Golf is a better\n>> hobby than a profession... at my level anyway!)\n>>\n>> Mike, WA9PIE, VK4EIE\n>>\n>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:36 AM michael sartoretti <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>>\n>>> Sounds good. good luck\n>>>\n>>> Everyone loves to use and try different things.\n>>>\n>>> That's the great thing about amateur radio.\n>>>\n>>> mike\n>>>\n>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:28 AM Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE <\n>>> [email protected]> wrote:\n>>>\n>>>> It seems about a wash to me. Nonetheless...\n>>>>\n>>>> I'm interested in working with some folks on the HRD stuff.\n>>>>\n>>>> Mike, WA9PIE\n>>>>\n>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:06 AM michael sartoretti <[email protected]>\n>>>> wrote:\n>>>>\n>>>>> With HRD do you need an interface between the computer and rotator.\n>>>>> if you do that is the added expanse.\n>>>>>\n>>>>> You also don't need any expensive rs 232 interfaces with the S.A.T.\n>>>>> The sat replaces that. It also controls any rotator supported by PST\n>>>>> rotator.\n>>>>>\n>>>>> Mike\n>>>>> kc2syf\n>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:37 AM Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE <\n>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:\n>>>>>\n>>>>>> Sorry, I should have read the page before replying. But I'll probably\n>>>>>> get one of these so I can do a side-by-side comparison.\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> That said... for $189... it's still more expensive than the sum total\n>>>>>> of HRD + something like the FoxDelta ST2 USB (which is fantastic, in my\n>>>>>> opinion).\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Mike, WA9PIE\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:32 PM Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE <\n>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Thanks. I'll do that.\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Does it control the radio and rotor(which is why my main focus is\n>>>>>>> right now)? Or is it just showing tracks (which HRD does quite well)?\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Mike, WA9PIE\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:21 PM michael sartoretti <[email protected]>\n>>>>>>> wrote:\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> Take a look at the S.A.T. tracker. The Satellite operators love\n>>>>>>>> it. No software to install for things to go wrong. Upgrades are always\n>>>>>>>> being made.\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> http://www.csntechnologies.net/sat\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/2661007767499917\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 11:48 PM Dr. Michael Carper, WA9PIE via\n>>>>>>>> AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Greetings all.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> I'm new to this email list. I searched the archive for \"HRD\" (Ham\n>>>>>>>>> Radio Deluxe) related posts and I've seen a few.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> I don't want to turn this into a commercial for HRD. That's not my\n>>>>>>>>> intention. I'm happy to take a topic offline (outside the email group).\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Here's my question...\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> For those who use Ham Radio Deluxe, what problems are you having\n>>>>>>>>> (recently) with satellite operations using the software?\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> [FWIW - a lot of what I've gotten recently when I've asked seems\n>>>>>>>>> to be 2nd-hand stories or memories of problems that occurred in the distant\n>>>>>>>>> past. A few things have been changed recently that I hope clears some past\n>>>>>>>>> problems.]\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for some first-hand recent feedback about using Ham\n>>>>>>>>> Radio Deluxe for satellites so I can scope out the improvements that need\n>>>>>>>>> to be made.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I'm looking for someone who can help verify the\n>>>>>>>>> Doppler calculations that control the frequency changes in the radio.\n>>>>>>>>> In-particular, if you have experience in C++, I'm happy to let you view the\n>>>>>>>>> code.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> What I really want to do is to make Ham Radio Deluxe the best\n>>>>>>>>> possible satellite app.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> I've acquired my own satellite gear and I expect to be \"eating my\n>>>>>>>>> own dog food.\" So I want this to be great.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Email me direct or comment here.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Thanks.\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> --\n>>>>>>>>> Mike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n>>>>>>>>> <https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\n>>>>>>>>> CEO/HRD Software, LLC\n>>>>>>>>> [email protected]\n>>>>>>>>> Makers of Ham Radio Deluxe\n>>>>>>>>> www.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Support <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n>>>>>>>>> <https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n>>>>>>>>> <https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n>>>>>>>>> <https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n>>>>>>>>> <https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n>>>>>>>>> <https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n>>>>>>>>> <https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n>>>>>>>>> <https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum\n>>>>>>>>> available\n>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed\n>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n>>>>>>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.\n>>>>>>>>> Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at\n>>>>>>>>> https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/\n>>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>> View archives of this mailing list at\n>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]\n>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org\n>>>>>>>>> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at\n>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.amsat.org\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> --\n>>>>>>> Mike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n>>>>>>> <https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\n>>>>>>> CEO/HRD Software, LLC\n>>>>>>> Makers of Ham Radio Deluxe\n>>>>>>> www.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Support <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n>>>>>>> <https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n>>>>>>> <https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n>>>>>>> <https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n>>>>>>> <https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n>>>>>>> <https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n>>>>>>> <https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n>>>>>>> <https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n>>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> --\n>>>>>> Mike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n>>>>>> <https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\n>>>>>> CEO/HRD Software, LLC\n>>>>>> Makers of Ham Radio Deluxe\n>>>>>> www.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Support <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n>>>>>> <https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n>>>>>> <https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n>>>>>> <https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n>>>>>> <https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>> Facebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n>>>>>> <https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n>>>>>> <https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n>>>>>> <https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n>>>>>>\n>>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> --\n>>>> Mike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n>>>> <https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\n>>>> CEO/HRD Software, LLC\n>>>> Makers of Ham Radio Deluxe\n>>>> www.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n>>>>\n>>>> Support <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n>>>> <https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n>>>> <https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n>>>> <https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n>>>> <https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n>>>>\n>>>> Facebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n>>>> <https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n>>>> <https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n>>>> <https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n>>>>\n>>>\n>>\n>> --\n>> Mike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n>> <https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\n>> CEO/HRD Software, LLC\n>> Makers of Ham Radio Deluxe\n>> www.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n>>\n>> Support <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n>> <https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n>> <https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n>> <https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n>> <https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n>>\n>> Facebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n>> <https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n>> <https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n>> <https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n>>\n>> -----------------------------------------------------------\n>>\n>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at\n>> https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/\n>>\n>> View archives of this mailing list at\n>> https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]\n>> To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org\n>> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at\n>> https://mailman.amsat.org\n>\n>\n\n-- \nMike Carper, WA9PIE <https://www.qrz.com/lookup/wa9pie> VK4EIE\n<https://www.qrz.com/db/vk4eie>\nCEO/HRD Software, LLC\nMakers of Ham Radio Deluxe\nwww.HamRadioDeluxe.com\n\nSupport <https://support.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Key Retrieval\n<https://keyretrieval.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Forums\n<https://forums.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Release Notes\n<https://releasenotes.hamradiodeluxe.com> | Manual\n<https://wiki.hamradiodeluxe.com>\n\nFacebook <https://www.Facebook.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | YouTube\n<https://www.YouTube.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Twitter\n<https://www.Twitter.com/HamRadioDeluxe> | Instagram\n<https://www.Instagram.com/HamRadioDeluxe>\n\n\n", "attachments": [ { "email": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/A5C45ATOBFBS4HKS2KSEUE2BKMAL5RRO/", "counter": 2, "name": "attachment.html", "content_type": "text/html", "encoding": "utf-8", "size": 20042, "download": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/A5C45ATOBFBS4HKS2KSEUE2BKMAL5RRO/attachment/2/attachment.html" } ] }