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    "sender_name": "Dee",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin",
    "date": "2012-02-12T01:49:12Z",
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    "content": "Wow,\nHere we go again.\nI have also donated to both projects. (and I'm retired!?)\n Just gave a presentation to a club in NJ.  One of the members also\npointed out that there is\nA lot of users exchanging info on the FM birds and seems to be pileup\ncity.  I get on most and\n get a QSO or 2 and then let the others have at it.\nExplaining the difference about LEO, MEO & HEO birds raised eyebrows and\nlisteners asked about the HEO's and their\nExtended orbits usually with an SSB transponder. Everyone was made aware\nof their expensive costs to have these come about.\nHowever, they didn't realize that the costs were absorbed by \"Donations\"\nfrom many hams interested in this end of the hobby.\nOf course International agreements became a worldwide avenue of\nfinancial aid to requests.  ITAR stopped info sharing and\nDried up collaboration.  Attitudes seemed to be \"when you launch an HEO,\nI'd be interested in supporting this.\"\nNo matter how I explained the urgency of hams supporting NOW for future\nprojects, most seemed deaf to our plea.\nPatrick, we must continue to circulate these ideas and promote our\ngrowth so as launches become available and worked to fruition\nBy our people, we have enough in the kitty to finish a project to meet\nthem. Let's all stay on the same page.\n\nCongrats to Tony, AA2TX, and his team for long hours of hard work to get\nhis proposal recognized.  Hoo-Rah.\n\nDee, NB2F\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)\nSent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:01 PM\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin\n\nHi Kevin!\n\n>   P3E is off in the future, I don't even think the sat is close to\n> ready to launch, and then you have the launch itself to consider, I\n> want P3E also but I also understand its not going to be soon.\n\nThat's been a question of mine, and a question asked of me in the recent\npast.  When someone asks me \"Should I build my satellite station to work\nwith HEO satellites now?\", my answer is usually \"Don't worry about it,\nuntil we have one in orbit\".\n\nUntil that day comes, I'm going to have fun working our current\nsatellites - in FM, SSB, and occasionally CW.  When, or if, an HEO is\nlaunched, then I'll gladly reequip my station to work that as well.\n\nI remember seeing that at the AMSAT-UK Colloquium last year, the P3E\nlaunch cost was quoted as 10 million euros. One thing I have never been\nable to clearly determine is how much of that 10 million euros has been\nraised.  I know I can buy pixels on that picture that has been on the\nAMSAT-DL web page for a long time, but I expect there has been more\nraised than just what we see on that picture.\nCan anyone connected with AMSAT-DL answer?  That would help to put the\nP3E fundraising effort into some context.\n\nAMSAT-NA has the PayPal widgets that started out with one that was for\nARISSat-1 and Fox, and now there's a Fox-only widget on the AMSAT web\nsite and in other places (like my QRZ.com entries and web page).  I know\nthere has been more $$$ donated to AMSAT than just what shows up on the\nPayPal widget, and I hope that combined total is publicized shortly -\nand then publicized on a regular basis.  The PayPal widget for the Fox\nproject (not the one that was for ARISSat-1 and Fox) has increased by\n1/3 in the past\n24 hours since the announcement of the NASA decision.\n\n>    On the other hand FOX is NOW we have a means of getting into\n> space,which is the biggest hurdle, so it needs funding NOW to get\n> completed and on that ride.\n\nI agree 100%.  I've already made a couple of contributions, and I'm\nhoping AMSAT is able to deliver Fox-1 to NASA for that launch. :-)\n\nProjects like FUNcube and KiwiSAT have also done a good job of\npublicizing what they have been doing and their needs - financial or\notherwise.  I've contributed to them, and - in the case of KiwiSAT -\nmade multiple contributions.  I'm all for not putting all of our eggs in\none basket.  More satellites would be a good thing.\n\n73!\n\n\n\n\n\nPatrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK\nhttp://www.wd9ewk.net/\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\nprogram!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n",
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