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    "sender_name": "Alexander Sack",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: FM satellites",
    "date": "2011-07-06T22:19:23Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/FC7OIOOOKREVHTGL5DYJRU5YAH3QHG7O/?format=api",
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    "content": "On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gregg Wonderly <[email protected]> wrote:\n> On 7/6/2011 4:30 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:\n>>> In emergency situation novadays a cell-phone\n>>> is much much better and reliable.\n>> I think there are a lot of people in Haiti that might disagree\n> Unfortunately, we have a lot of people with ham licenses who have never\n> understood or seen the complexity behind cellular networks to understand how\n> fragile they actually are.  Sure, the cell site is wireless to you, but it has\n> power and wired telephony requirements that put it several steps on the risk\n> ladder above a ham repeater, and extremely high risk for failure compared to\n> simplex radio comms.\n\nThat's not it at all as I see it.  Does anyone on this list really\nbelieve when aliens attack that repeaters will survive but cellular\nnetworks will all be done?\n\nNetwork survival is not the pertinent metric; network *recovery* is.\n\nBob mentioned Haiti.  That is a good example.  How many active\nrepeaters do you think are in Haiti?  How many do you think survived\nthe Earthquake?   How many repeaters are in <insert very poor\nthird-world country here>?\n\nThe bottom line is setting up an RF station to communicate vital\ninformation is an order of magnitude faster than to rely on the cell\ncompanies to restore service.  That's the issue.\n\nNow tie this to AMSAT-BB:\n\nIf I could switch from using a local cell to one based on\ngeosynchronous satellites than RF would probably not be my first\noption since cell phones offer more forms of communication than a\nradio (think HT).\n\n-aps (KC2ZSX)\n\n",
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