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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/CQWXTAQ7G3BF6KEKTASFHUW2ZCECL2DC/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "8DC28A119A334C7DBB73A5C0CF4DF0B6@EgonPC", "message_id_hash": "CQWXTAQ7G3BF6KEKTASFHUW2ZCECL2DC", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/M3CCG2JAVEAUP6H7NSEOEPEZH4CFSWWS/", "sender": { "address": "ve6egn (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "431471b8491f4d5799020f197970bd97", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/431471b8491f4d5799020f197970bd97/emails/" }, "sender_name": "egon", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] need HEO .. please..", "date": "2020-06-18T15:55:38Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/5D5X73PWCL7UTBHPLGKK4C7TMF6R3IJV/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ZT43C2PE7LUNYCCDHMF7MWC3KQSARXX5/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": ">From Alberta Canada I have worked 23 country's on LEO satellites\nand that's not counting AO40,\n\n\n\nEgon VE6EGN/SA3EGN\n-----Original Message----- \nFrom: KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB\nSent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:59 AM\nTo: David J. Schmocker\nCc: AMSAT BB\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] need HEO .. please..\n\nDavid,\n\n\"Forgive me, for I am but a humble DXer. How is DXing possible without\nHEO?\"\n\nIt's very possible to work a DX with just the LEO sats we have now, heck\nI'm in Oregon and have managed to work Spain and many other countries in\nthat area. The east coast ops are able to work DEEP into the EU and even\nable to work EU with just FM on AO-91. 2M0SQL (Whom I have worked via LEO)\nis in Scotland is able to work all the way to the west coast of US via\nRS-44/AO-7 with passes almost daily, and yes those are LEO sats.\n\nPeople who say \"working DX isn't possible with LEO\" need to take a look at\norbits, and probably get our of their comfort zone, you won't get much DX\non an overhead pass... you need to get out and work those 1* passes or\nventure out more and get up on a hill and work a negative degree pass. LEO\nDX is 100% possible!\n\nSadly, many are just complaining instead of using what we have and or\ndonating. Many of said complainers have no concept of the\ndesign/skills/time/money/effort/programming/de-orbital requirements they\nthink its just wham bam the sat is in space.\n\nRead more about what AMSAT is doing to go higher, and DONATE all on this\npage!\nhttps://www.amsat.org/greater-orbit-larger-footprint-an-introduction-to-the-amsat-golf-program/\n\nMEO or an HEO satellite sounds great and I can't wait, it would be fun and\nallow me to work many more DX.\n\n\n/R\nKI7UNJ\n\n\nOn Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:57 AM David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Everyone:\n> My thoughts are in full alignment with Joe's view.. \"Why no HEO?\"\n> Without HEO, my interest in satellites is.. zero.\n>\n> Forgive me, for I am but a humble DXer. How is DXing possible without \n> HEO?\n>\n> My donations start and increase in proportion to the satellite orbital\n> height.\n>\n> very 73,\n>\n> Dave KJ9I\n>\n> On 6/17/20 5:08 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote:\n> > Zach; As a long time member of AMSAT, I can assure you I did donate\n> > for the AO-40 project. But since that time there have been no\n> > significant HEO projects.\n> > LEO and primarily FM oriented satellites have been the rule. Year\n> > after year, the focus has been on these short term, low earth projects\n> > or ARISS.\n> >\n> > Who cares if an HEO requires COTS space rated modules to be considered\n> > a payload? There is plenty of work to be done on the ground building\n> > an earth station.\n> >\n> > Paul; Why no outreach to the industry. Elon Musk? A free AMSAT\n> > membership, some Honorary AMSAT Knighthood? Anybody ever give him a\n> > call?\n> >\n> > I know part of this is ITAR and the US basically screwing ourselves by\n> > embargoing technology.\n> >\n> >\n> > \"Donate early, donate often.\n> >\n> > 2) No amateur-built hardware on the satellite -- Yes, specifying and\n> > overseeing development takes a LOT of work. I do this for my day job,\n> > not satellites, but just as complex. However, designing, building,\n> > testing, and deploying amateur-built hardware is what I feel AMSAT is\n> > all about.\n> > --- Zach\n> > N0ZGO\"\n> >\n> > \"There are many political and economic factors that made the\n> > partnership with AMSAT-DL possible. \"\n> >\n> > \"the most senior political official we've had who was\n> > active in amateur radio was Sen. Barry Goldwater. Currently, Rep. Greg\n> > Walden is the only amateur radio operator I'm aware of in high levels\n> > of government and he's retiring when his term ends in January.\n> >\n> > 73,\n> >\n> > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM\n> > Executive Vice President\n> > AMSAT\"\n> >\n> > I really just hear excuses when others ask the same question, why no \n> > HEO?\n> >\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n-- \n*Casey Tucker KI7UNJ*\nhttps://twitter.com/KI7UNJ\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\nto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions \nexpressed\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of \nAMSAT-NA.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n\n", "attachments": [] }