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        "address": "amsat-bb (a) wd9ewk.net",
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    "sender_name": "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Commercial Imports",
    "date": "2009-06-11T06:38:34Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/BM7TDZO5PVMBJOAZ3HMY3SSYQQUWGUI5/?format=api",
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    "content": "Hi Clint.\n\n>  >> ... Now on to using these radios.  Clint - since you have been\n> stridently\n> insisting on the illegality of using non-FCC-certified radios on the US\n> ham bands, could you please show us the specific law/rule/regulation\n> that states that hams cannot use non-certified commercial gear in the\n> ham bands?\n>\n\n(Clint cited 47 USC 302(b), Seciton 2.803(a)(1) of FCC Rules, and\n47 USC 503 (b) related to the import/distribution/sale of non-\ncertified radios, plus a quote about radio transceivers in 136-174\nand 400-470 MHz that was not part of any FCC rule or US law)\n\n> I will dig up my notes from a conversation with Bll Cross later n the\n> week.\n\nThanks for not answering my question which you referred to in this\npost.  You cite several sections that relate to the import and sale\nof this gear, but not related to using it.\n\nWho in the US is selling/marketing Jingtong, FDC, and other non-\ncertified radios?  Certainly not HRO, AES, etc.  Not in the ham\nmagazines here.  FCC enforcement appears to be geared toward\nthose who sell many of these radios, like with the \"10-meter\" radios.\nThe \"Radio transceivers operating in the ... \" part is not actually in\nany rule.  That was part of a 2006 FCC decision against a California\nguy who was importing and selling these radios on eBay:\n\nhttp://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-268422A1.html\n\nAgain, this is not related to my question about the *use* of these\nradios.   This was the case of a stateside \"shop\" that was\nimporting these radios, which clearly is a violation of the rules you\ncited and within the explanations of the terms \"willful\" and\n\"repeated\" as you posted.\n\nYou are welcome to take another try at answering my question\nabout the *use* of these radios.  Maybe your notes from that\nconversation with Bill Cross will shed some light on that - even\nif that conversation is just Bill's opinion, and not necessarily the\nopinion of the FCC.  I have never seen an FCC rule or decision\nthat says hams are not allowed to use non-certified gear,\nwhether it is made for the ham market or a radio meant for\ncommercial two-way use modified or programmed for use on\nham frequencies or a non-certified radio.  Part 97's technical\nrequirements would need to be met for the gear, as well as the\noperator using the radio within the bounds of his/her license.\n\n73!\n\n\n\n\nPatrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK\nhttp://www.wd9ewk.net/\n\n",
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