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        "address": "bill (a) hsmicrowave.com",
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    "sender_name": "Bill Ress",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered",
    "date": "2009-09-11T19:38:32Z",
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    "content": "\n\nRocky Jones wrote:\n> Bob\n> \n> What has been remarkable about this thread, is that it has shown how dysfunctional AMSAT NA is.\n> \n> Forget satelllite \nIt's satellite - by the way!\nconstruction etc...people point out problems with the web site and next \nthing you have is someone explaining who can and cannot comment on the \nstate of the organization (to paraphrase \"we dont need weak volunteers \nwho are discouraged by no real method of being able to volunteer  one \nhas to earn the right to be critical...\")\n> \n> Forget the ability to answer serious questions like (and I know its annoying) As a team memb\"how was the suitsat 2 program allowed to not meet the ability to use the \"suits\".\n\nAs a SuitSat team member, I gave you a brief answer offline and offered \nto get more detail if you so desired. You didn't respond. It's obvious \nto me that you really don't want an answer, You just want to be a \nboring, broken record.\n\nSo I'll repeat the simple answer, here, why we missed the suit launch. \nListen up.\n\nThe SuitSat team is made up entirely of volunteers who have real jobs, \nfamilies, and other responsibilities. Hey, we're just pursuing our \nAmateur radio HOBBY - not a professional job. Some of you folks talk \nlike we're a Loral or Lockheed.  Did you critics forget that Amateur \nradio satellites are a hobby - not a business?\n\nWell, by golly, along the way technical challenges delayed progress. \nJobs and families got in the way. Son of a gun - we missed schedules. \nI'm not offering excuses, just offering the reality of having folks on \nthe team that aren't getting paid for their fantastic efforts.\n\nSure, it's not nice to have technical issues show up or to miss \nschedules but in the scheme of things, what have we lost - except maybe \ncreditability in YOUR eyes. We now have a new satellite structure more \nsuited for what we are trying to do technically - called ARRISat.\n\nThe way you've been carrying on, I am so very glad we don't have you \nvolunteering - even to stuff envelopes. You'd probably say that we were \ndoing that wrong too. Personally, I thought that refunding your AMSAT \nlife membership would make me feel better, but on further reflection, \nAMSAT should just keep your money since it is helping fund efforts to \nserve it's members who appreciate what volunteers are trying to do for \nthem and their hobby.\n\nAnd if you think any of your comments have caused the ARRISat team to \nmiss a beat on the way to our 2010 launch, then think again. This team \nhas tackled and solved technical challenges more significant for the \nfuture of AMSAT and its members, than ANY of the issues you raise.\n\nRegards...Bill - N6GHz\n\n> \n> And from what I can tell no one has a clue why Suitsat 1 failed (I know it was a glorious success by just deploying)  much less how to avoid a repeat of that with a much more complicated followon which is now functionally a new satellite.\n> \n> And of course the whole concept of board meetings which really are not is entertaining.\n> \n> The answers are \"you cannot criticize \"us\" we are working 16 to 18 hour days doing things that no one else will do\"...\n> \n> and then one wonders why donations are at an all time low.\n> \n> Robert WB5MZO Amsat NA life member\n> \n> \n> \n> _________________________________________________________________\n> Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.\n> http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n",
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