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    "sender_name": "David Upton",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM-29] Re: [VHF] Re:  Icom 451 questions",
    "date": "2012-01-13T18:08:29Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/MXTRB2Y4HPAZAO6I3HOE3CDFUZO6CI6A/",
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    "content": "I would tend to be slightly more positive.  The decoders, while known to\nfail after a static shock, are old line 4k CMOS.  These are still around at\nfleas and so forth.  The X51 series is a solid workhorse IF the switching\nsupply (internal) is OK.  Some were good, some were bad and stayed that\nway.  The flourescent display supply is probably subject to electrolytics\ndrying out over time given the age of the radio.  I still have mine as a\nback-up and because it was part of a terrestrial record.   It definitely\ncan use a preamp as can almost every all-mode ever created.  But it isn't a\nbad radio at the right price.  Here in NE, they are still hovering around\n$200 or more depending on condition.\n\nDavid, WB1CMG\nMont Vernon, NH 03057\nFN42DV\n\n\nOn Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Crownhaven <[email protected]>wrote:\n\n> No more than $100.  I actually think they are about worthless based on the\n> current radios available and the age unless you are just into vintage\n> radios.  What are you going to use it for?  I had a 251A as my first\n> two-meter rig for weak-signal work.  It was deaf.  It HAD to have an\n> outboard preamp.  None of this generation of radios were very sensitive\n> based on the technology used at the time.\n> I would say it might be a great radio for your repeater work.\n>\n> Steve, N4JQQ, EM55bd\n>\n>\n> STeve Andre' wrote:\n>\n>> On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:\n>>\n>>> A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell\n>>> me.  What is the typical selling price for these rigs?  It is in good\n>>> physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical\n>>> problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking\n>>> out for?\n>>>\n>>> 73s John AA5JG\n>>> ______________________________**_________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/**listinfo/amsat-bb<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>\n>>>\n>>> During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that\n>> the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a\n>> 271 manual for it.  Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to\n>> think that is true.\n>>\n>> I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it.  The\n>> larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of\n>> the specialty ICs could be hard.  I seem to remember a few\n>> of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?\n>>\n>> --STeve Andre'\n>> wb8wsf  en72\n>> ------\n>> Submissions:                    [email protected]\n>> Subscription/removal requests:  [email protected]\n>> Human list administrator:       [email protected]\n>> List rules and information:    http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/**vhf/<http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/>\n>>\n> ------\n> Submissions:                    [email protected]\n> Subscription/removal requests:  [email protected]\n> Human list administrator:       [email protected]\n> List rules and information:     http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/**vhf/<http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/>\n>\n",
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