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    "sender_name": "Lee McLamb",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Ride to space",
    "date": "2007-10-30T00:40:41Z",
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    "content": "On Monday 29 October 2007 17:07:53 Tony Langdon wrote:\n> At 05:26 AM 10/30/2007, Robert McGwier wrote:\n>\n> First, I have to say this is fantastic!\n>\n> >Intelsat offers both!  We are asking for Piggy back for us and will ask\n> >for secondary payload should it be required for P3E.\n>\n> I'm curious why they're going for it.  What's in it for\n> Intelsat?  Not being picky, just curious how it looks from their\n> perspective.\n\nIn addition to the policy issues Bob mentioned, the biggest change is that the \nlaunch vehicles have gotten significantly larger.  They've grown and \nstandardized to the point where the price/kg to orbit is not so much driven \nby mass but by engineering and production costs.  The result is that Intelsat \ncan host payloads of our expected mass without having to off load a \ncompensating amount of fuel.  Since they can launch fully fueled the impact \nto the spacecraft lifetime and their ability to generate revenue is \nminimized.\n\nDuring my talk at the Symposium I used the WGS and AEHF satellite programs as \nexamples of GTO launches with excess capacity.  They have 1500 lbs and 1000 \nlbs respectively and there will be multiple flights of each.  So there are \nalso other avenues being explored as well.\n\n\n73,\nLee-KU4OS\n",
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