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        "address": "bill (a) hsmicrowave.com",
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    "sender_name": "Bill Ress",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Cost of an HEO launch",
    "date": "2008-07-23T01:13:36Z",
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    "content": "Hi Lee,\n\nThanks for your input on SpaceX. Do you know if AMSAT has contacted any \nof the multi-manifest brokers working with SpaceX to try and flush out \ncost versus payload estimates on the multi-manifest payloads?\n\nRegards...Bill - N6GHz\n\nLee McLamb wrote:\n> Yes,  AMSAT has been closely watching the developments with SpaceX for several \n> years. I've also spoken with several people from the company.  Currently they \n> do not have a launch vehicle capable of reaching GTO type orbits.  That will \n> change as they bring the Falcon-9 on line.  I think the encouraging part is \n> they are already accommodating secondary payloads on Falcon-1 missions.  What \n> types of capabilities the Falcon-9 will have are as yet unknown.\n>\n> My day job at the Eastern Range also happens to include working on the Falcon \n> program as SpaceX converts and activates Complex 40 for Falcon-9 launches.\n>\n> 73,\n> Lee-KU4OS\n> AMSAT Exec. VP\n>\n> On Sunday 20 July 2008 15:45:32 Bill Ress wrote:\n>   \n>> Hi Dave,\n>>\n>> While SpaceX only works with primary single manifest customers, but if\n>> those customers can't use the entire payload, then they can work with\n>> third party multi-manifest \"brokers\" and we in turn could work with\n>> these multi-manifest \"brokers\" for a piece of the payload. For sure,\n>> lots of negotiating required when and if we find that a primary manifest\n>> customer doesn't need the whole payload.\n>>\n>> I really don't know if AMSAT management has any activity pursuing this\n>> avenue of launch, but if they don't, they should!!\n>>\n>> Regards,,,Bill - N6GHz (AMSAT Board Candidate)\n>>\n>> Dave hartzell wrote:\n>>     \n>>> David-\n>>>\n>>> Actually, the SpaceX Falcon 1 or 1e could put a spacecraft into HEO or\n>>> lunar transfer orbit:\n>>>\n>>> http://www.spacex.com/FalconLunarCapabilityGuide.pdf\n>>>\n>>> The stated cost for this is around $9m.  Of course, they haven't\n>>> gotten a successful orbit yet from a F1....maybe the third time will\n>>> be the charm.  Hitching a ride on a larger launch vehicle like the F9\n>>> is interesting, assuming there is capacity and the willingness to be a\n>>> guinea pig (and there WILL be a cost to anyone wanting a ride)...\n>>>\n>>> It will be interesting to see what launch opportunities will be\n>>> available in the next few years (if any)...\n>>>\n>>> Dave\n>>> AF6KD\n>>>\n>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>>       \n>>>> The anticipated 'going rate' for this new vehicle is shown at the bottom\n>>>> of the page.\n>>>>\n>>>> _http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php_ (http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php)\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> Test flight anyone?\n>>>>\n>>>> David\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>> program! Subscription settings:\n>>>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>         \n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program! Subscription settings:\n>>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>       \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>     \n>\n>\n>\n>\n>   \n",
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