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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/DZWVMC66AXI77ZO6LAPRNUW2WM3RPLB4/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "DZWVMC66AXI77ZO6LAPRNUW2WM3RPLB4", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/IZ5B6TSOOGFSMNE3R46D2RSKISARC7SY/", "sender": { "address": "n5uxt (a) hotmail.com", "mailman_id": "a342490f7e9a4e4c9a9460642e57eb1f", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/a342490f7e9a4e4c9a9460642e57eb1f/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Angelo Glorioso", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: D STAR", "date": "2013-11-12T17:48:48Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QC3MKQW5XIVHYBYKJD52MXLNEHTFJDZY/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ZULRTC3XSPA3KXGR3N5U7KRWMRSOCDIO/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Sorry. I thought we were comparing apples with apples.\n\nPS: By the way, apple (big brother is watching you ) :-)\n\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>\nSent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:26 AM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n\n\n>I can do all that with my iphone .... which are the enhancements?\n>\n>\n> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Glorioso <[email protected]> \n> wrote:\n>\n>> \"To help the believer \" :-)\n>>\n>> Either you have not used Dstar before or have not used it\n>> in a long time.\n>>\n>> Have your tried to send a picture with Dstar??\n>>\n>> Have you chatted voice and text as the same time??\n>>\n>> Have you tried to surf the web with DStar.\n>>\n>> Have you used DRats for Emergencies, trainings or other exercises ???\n>>\n>>\n>> Just to mention a few things that add to the enhancement of the\n>> radio art!!!!!!\n>>\n>> 7 3 de Angelo\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> ----- Original Message ----- From: \"Rob\" <[email protected]>\n>> To: <[email protected]>\n>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:39 AM\n>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR\n>>\n>>\n>> \"To help the non beleiver.. \"\n>>>\n>>> Well I guess it official ... it's now become a religious argument.\n>>>\n>>> D-STAR is the \"fast-food\" of amateur radio (much the same way repeaters\n>>> are\n>>> ... but I digress)\n>>>\n>>> I'm not arguing the technical merits .... but it does not enhance the\n>>> radio\n>>> art ... it does not promote innovation ...\n>>>\n>>> Sure you can buy a radio ... plug it in .... program it or what ever you\n>>> need to do to get on \"the net\" and talk to someone .... you've learned\n>>> nothing and you've given nothing back.\n>>>\n>>> The spectrum we use is very valuable .... if we're not generating any\n>>> value\n>>> for what we've been entrusted with it's going to be sold off to the\n>>> highest\n>>> bidder.\n>>>\n>>> We need more of this -> http://wc2fd.com/eaps/\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>>\n>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:\n>>>\n>>> On 11 Nov 2013 at 15:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:\n>>>>\n>>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:46:24AM -0600, damon runion wrote:\n>>>> > > Well back in the days of AM and when SSB came out it was the same\n>>>> > > thinking then BUT what has happened to AM . Same thing with DSTAR \n>>>> > > it\n>>>> > > is growing and will grow . Thats what makes ham radio so much fun,\n>>>> > > there is something for everyone\n>>>> > > 73,s Damon\n>>>> >\n>>>> > But the difference there is that *anyone* can make an SSB rig. Only \n>>>> > >\n>>>> one\n>>>> manufacturer is allowed to make AMBE codecs, and they will only sell to \n>>>> a\n>>>> handful of approved radio manufacturers.\n>>>> >\n>>>> > It is illegal to make your own DStar radio, without buying the AMBE\n>>>> codec from DVSI. That sort of thing has no place in amateur radio.\n>>>> >\n>>>> > --\n>>>> > Gordonjcp MM0YEQ\n>>>> >\n>>>> > _______________________________________________\n>>>> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the >\n>>>> author.\n>>>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>> program!\n>>>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>\n>>>> To help the non beleiver.. just read this:\n>>>>\n>>>> http://www.eham.net/articles/30174\n>>>>\n>>>> And yes telephone and satellite phone are available but if one choose \n>>>> to\n>>>> use DSTAR it is relevant to discredit him? If you think something\n>>>> has no place im amateur radio just don't use it and let those who wants\n>>>> to\n>>>> use it enjoy one of the most reliable digital communication\n>>>> protocol available. Yes some will say DMR, MotoTRBO are better it's \n>>>> just\n>>>> to say competition is already present.\n>>>>\n>>>> The cost question.\n>>>> You can already interface a lot of recent HF transceiver to DSTAR for\n>>>> 700$\n>>>> and much less if you are technicaly inclined.See below it's just\n>>>> an example and i'm not connected to their business.\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> http://dstarradioclub-international.com/dv-adapters-\n>>>> --for-more-information--manual-links.html?success=1&\n>>>> ucfid=510239683496259871&text=Thank+\n>>>> you.+Your+information+has+been+submitted\n>>>>\n>>>> I don't know where this \"I don't use it and as i think it's not Ham \n>>>> radio\n>>>> no one should use it\" trend come from but it's getting old...\n>>>>\n>>>> I'm an avid DSTAR user just put my call sing in your URCALL and you \n>>>> will\n>>>> be able to reach me all over the globe. If you don't like the\n>>>> internet component you better to go back to the cave man, or you don't\n>>>> live on my planet.\n>>>>\n>>>> Just let folks live free...\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\n>>>> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n>>>>\n>>>>\n>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the \n>>>> author.\n>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>>> program!\n>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>>\n>>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n>>> program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>>\n>>>\n>>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n\n", "attachments": [] }