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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/EDERFG2QIORHAVJRDKRAFY7SXDFNGCEI/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "EDERFG2QIORHAVJRDKRAFY7SXDFNGCEI", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/DLTM7AY5LWL26HBBVWZY4JIU26GCXPWG/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "k7zt (a) suddenlink.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Joe Westbrook", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ... US military operations [slightly OT]", "date": "2007-02-18T01:41:43Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/GSY6BCIQ6X2DDADX3O3BN3VXLW5SKXAF/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/JU5K2F3LC7OEY2OT7QMQB3OA45GUBB5V/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Luc:\nLIGHTEN UP! Just a reminder, if it wasn't for the United States Military, \nthere wouldn't be a Satellite\nprogram on this hemisphere, nor would AMSAT-NA exist. If you had done your \nhomework, you would know that it was the USAF that put up many of the \nearliest Amateur Radio Satellites, I don't see Canada putting up any money \nto support space exploration. Your right, this BB isn't moderated so all \ndissenting views can be expressed.\n\nGet a life dude!\nRegards, DE K7ZT\nJoe Westbrook, MSgt., USAF Retired\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Luc Leblanc\" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>\nSent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:13 AM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: ... US military operations [slightly OT]\n\n\n> Just to pointed out i asked at numerous occasion to have this BB moderated \n> and\n> my request where always turned down as this BB is \"open\". This mean it is \n> not\n> restricted to any subjects.\n>\n> As my first message regarding AO-51 use by US military forces was not \n> intended\n> for this one at least to show up any conspiracy but conflicting \n> utilization of\n> an IARU amateur service allocated satellite.\n>\n> Irresponsible and uncontrolled operations on AO-51 regarding IARU is all \n> what's\n> my post is about. It is not related to anything else and the funding \n> issues and\n> the benefits from volunteers are not the purpose of my post.\n>\n> Making amateurs radio satellite available to military services is a \n> dangerous\n> precedent! Is an Iranian korean chinese military satellite using 145.820 \n> and\n> build by cadets will be endorse by AMSAT-NA? Its time Misses Leber to\n> act...again lightly {uprorious laughter ensues} :(\n>\n> In a way to help some (both gender here...) {uprorious laughter ensues} \n> to\n> remain focused on the subject or the task Here is an excerpt of the IARU\n> INFORMATION FOR DEVELOPERS OF SATELLITES\n> PLANNING TO USE FREQUENCY BANDS ALLOCATED TO\n> THE AMATEUR-SATELLITE SERVICE section VIII. REVIEW MISSION PLANS item B\n>\n> B. Alternatives to the amateur-satellite service\n>\n> Alternatives to the amateur-satellite service exist in the many satellite\n> services for which\n> allocations are provided in the Radio Regulations. See Annex IV for a \n> complete\n> list of\n> services, including satellite services, to which frequencies are \n> allocated.\n> For missions not fitting into one of the existing services, particularly \n> for\n> short term\n> research or school projects, experimental stations may be licensed by\n> administrations.\n> See: Article 27 of the Radio Regulations. Experimental stations may be \n> assigned\n> on\n> any frequency on a secondary basis.\n> NOTE: Experimental stations authorized by one administration are not \n> normally\n> permitted to communicate with experimental stations authorized by another.\n> Special\n> international arrangements are required. [See: RR 27.1.]\n> If experimental licensing is proposed using frequencies in an \n> amateur-satellite\n> service\n> allocation, then the IARU Satellite Advisor may be able to help guide your\n> frequency\n> planning so as to minimise the probability of interference to and from \n> licensed\n> amateur satellite\n> service stations. Administrations normally consider experimental stations\n> assecondary\n> to all other licensed stations. So, frequency coordination is particularly\n> important for assuring mission success.\n>\n> NOTE: When ready to ask for IARU frequency coordination, please, be sure \n> to\n> use the latest frequency coordination request form! The form changes from \n> time\n> to time.\n>\n> I know stupidity has no sex {uprorious laughter ensues} I like this one\n> probably my next signature comment, but the more cubes we put in spaces \n> the\n> more we open our spectrum to non amateur operations.\n>\n> Get a cheap satellite in the space on the HAM satellite band. Just put a\n> repeater in it promised them to let them operate it at the end of his life \n> and\n> bingo you got a free ride... The dummies are even \"helping US the Abou\n> Ghraib/Guantanamo folks they even called us their friends\"{uprorious \n> laughter\n> ensues}\n>\n> As an \"international\" organization AMSAT-NA should not put themselves in a \n> week\n> position supporting the military as some will probably tend to extend the\n> debate. As one mentioned it so well \" While i am deeply concerned by the\n> actions of the US military, i do know who are the 'Commander and Chief' \n> is; and\n> i also recognize that the US military is, by necessity, a very diverse\n> organization\"\n>\n> The same \"necessity\" was also present in Vietnam and if some are willing \n> to\n> sell their souls and principles for money i am not and its why i wrote and\n> signed again \"I know i wrote in the past that AMSAT'S should be \n> \"innovative\"\n> but not to a point to prostitute with any military action or operation.\"\n>\n> I know a time where floks down the border where much more concerned and \n> less\n> inclined towards the lighter and easy side EG:{uprorious laughter ensues}\n>\n>\n> Some link of interest:\n>\n> http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4377\n> http://www.julien-daillere.com/filmacoz/english/actions-english.html\n> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/09/iraq.main/index.html\n> http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/05/07/iraq8560.htm\n> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prison\n> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse\n>\n>\n> Margaret Leber K3XS and Andrew Glasbrenner KO4MA both wrote in their own \n> time:\n>\n> \" please be patient as we cooperate with our friends at the USAFA\" \n> {uprorious\n> laughter ensues}\n>\n>\n> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002502.html\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> \"-\"\n> \"Stupidity has no sex\" {uprorious laughter ensues}\n>\n>\n> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE\n> Skype VE2DWE\n> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe\n> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n\n", "attachments": [] }