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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/EDYB7RTSUPDS77W2V5AWUGDLFIUD67C7/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "EDYB7RTSUPDS77W2V5AWUGDLFIUD67C7", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/BAALVLWUQ2J7KIMRB3SZ7JKUMYMHYHNN/", "sender": { "address": "n4qwf1 (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "8ff6e4ef2f9e4d82a21ee63d740aaf45", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/8ff6e4ef2f9e4d82a21ee63d740aaf45/emails/" }, "sender_name": "John Price", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: where all the users", "date": "2008-07-18T11:40:57Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/KGMUWZM3K3QW625HWXNYXL2MU7S4L3G4/", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I have been very interested in the response to \"were are the\noperators\". I guess everyone has there definition of fun. I guess my\nthinking is \"if you don't have a car ride the mule\". I did not\noperate AO-7 when it was the latest and greatest but I would think\nthere had to be many\nwho considered it wonderful. I suppose if bigger and better had not\ncome along it still would\nbe so. I too was spoiled by the HEO operations on AO-10,13,40. Fact is\nthey are gone. I guess\nif the wait until position was applied there would be no one on HF\nduring the low sunspot\ncycle either. Oh well, anyone interested in a short QSO to keep the\nwhiskers out of there\nSat rig meet me and Joe on AO-7.\n\n73's << John\n\nOn Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Auke de Jong <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> I can only offer my own reason for being absent from VO-52 and AO-7:\n> I find keeping-up with the doppler-tuning of these LEO-orbits to be\n> frustrating. It doesn't help that my rig is awkward in this mode, and my\n> PC-control option has a problem I've yet to solve. Add, to this, my manual\n> rotator-controller, and it adds-up to several uncompleted contacts. VO-52\n> is, of course, harder than ao-7 because of it's height/speed.\n>\n> Considering just this reason by itself, HEO is much more inviting, because\n> the doppler-effect is so greatly reduced. I think this reason might be\n> shared by several other HAM's on the BB, even if they don't mention it. I\n> even feel a little embarassed to admit that I haven't been able to cope with\n> the different rates of doppler-shift for uplink and downlink.\n> I might have to put my old transciever (FT-726R) back on the air, just\n> because it was a lot easier to control both VFO's mid-QSO to keep centered.\n> I don't even think I've completed one, since I've gotten my relatively\n> modern \"satellite rig\" FT-847, despite several attempts to do-so.\n>\n> I think that the FM birds are more populated due to their twofold\n> advantage... very few tuning-steps to stay locked on RX and in some cases,\n> no uplink tuning at all; and FM gear is smaller and cheaper than anything\n> available to work linear, especially portable/mobile.\n>\n> This would make an excellent poll, if we were on a messageboard-forum such\n> as the one on www.narc.net, or maybe as a mail-back card sent to all\n> members.\n>\n> I've been skipping/deleting all the other chatter regarding complaints for\n> lack of a functioning HEO, etc etc. I feel so much better for not having\n> been infected by the negativity of others. I hope the storm dies-sown soon\n> so that we can get back to what we do best... whatever it is!\n> 73's\n> Auke\n>\n> ----- Original Message -----\n> From: \"John Price\" <[email protected]>\n> To: <[email protected]>\n> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:16 PM\n> Subject: [amsat-bb] where all the users\n>\n>\n>>I have been reading about the need for HEO satellites and the reasons\n>> we don't have them. I wonder why the folks that wont the\n>> HEO's so bad never show up on AO-07 or VO-52. Most passes it is joe\n>> K3SZH and maybe two others at most on AO-07 and\n>> I hardly ever hear anyone on VO-52. The birds that have all the users\n>> are the FM sats. I would love to see a HEO built but if we\n>> are not going to use what we have what is the point.\n>>\n>> 73's << John\n>>\n>> --\n>> N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator\n>> AO-7,AO-27,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS\n>> Internet [email protected]\n>> Echolink nodes #110903 -L #388463\n>> Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ\n>> Amsat Member #27845\n>> DXCC #33,478\n>> VUCC SAT #135\n>> WAS SAT #296\n>> 51 on AO-51 #13\n>> LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il\n>>>From the Foothills of the Blueridge\n>>\n>> *Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of\n>> arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to\n>> skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly\n>> proclaiming - \"WOW, What a ride!\"\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n>\n>\n>\n> No virus found in this incoming message.\n> Checked by AVG.\n> Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008\n> 9:56 AM\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n\n-- \nN4QWF Amateur Radio Operator\nAO-7,AO-27,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS\nInternet [email protected]\nEcholink nodes #110903 -L #388463\nFormerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ\nAmsat Member #27845\nDXCC #33,478\nVUCC SAT #135\nWAS SAT #296\n51 on AO-51 #13\nLON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il\n>From the Foothills of the Blueridge\n\n*Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of\narriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to\nskid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly\nproclaiming - \"WOW, What a ride!\"\n", "attachments": [] }