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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/F3HV326FFTFGLZ2NSMFWZGCIRNH7KQKA/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "20081216224351.GIBX18392.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@kooka", "message_id_hash": "F3HV326FFTFGLZ2NSMFWZGCIRNH7KQKA", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/HX2TZUE5FEDTUGBD25ZZ6SJSK3JMZ5XS/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "geofft (a) bigpond.net.au", "mailman_id": "84093689c2cf4f99b40fd4b12f3b6c4f", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/84093689c2cf4f99b40fd4b12f3b6c4f/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Geoff Taurins", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: HEO launch possible???", "date": "2008-12-16T22:43:53Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HX2TZUE5FEDTUGBD25ZZ6SJSK3JMZ5XS/?format=api", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "G'day Luc\n\nThe way I read the specs on the web page is \n\nLaunch Cost = $120,000,000\nPayload = 12770 Kg (not 710,000 Kg which is launch weight )\nTotal = $9397 / Kg\nFor a 150Kg sat that's around $1,400,000\n\n73 Geoff VK3GE\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\nBehalf Of Luc Leblanc\nSent: Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:42\nTo: [email protected]\nCc: [email protected]\nSubject: [amsat-bb] HEO launch possible???\n\nHi satellite fans\n\nJust came out of a bad dream tonight after reading this Ariane 5\nannouncement?\n\n\"The 186th Ariane mission will launch two communications satellites,\nprimarily\nintended for direct TV broadcast services and data networks: HOT BIRDTM 9\nand W2M,\nboth for Eutelsat.\n\nThis will be the 42nd Ariane 5 launch.\n\nThe launcher will be carrying a total payload of 9,220 kg, including 8,340\nkg for the\ntwo satellites, which will be released separately into their targeted\norbits.\"\n\nJust note The 9220Kg payload and theses Ariane 5 figures\n\nLEO Payload* (28.5 deg., 550 km) \tGTO Payload* (7 deg. inclination)\n39,600 lb 18,000 kg (single / dual manifest)\n15,000 lb / 13,160 lb 6,800 kg / 5,970 kg\n\n\nConfiguration\nCore + 2 SRB + Aestus Second Stage\n\nLaunch Mass\n1,570,000 lb\n710,000 kg\n\nEstimated Launch Price US $120 M\n\n* Performance provided by Arianespace.\n\nThere is room for a 150kg amateur HEO satellite and at an US$169 per kilo a\n150Kg mass should cost US $25350!!!\n\nI'm not too quick in calculus but how the +_ millions USD P3E and EAGLE\nlaunch cost came from? integration work? shipping and handling?\n\nI know that at the top of a Ponzi pyramid numbers added very fast but even\nwith the worst case scenario there is something who's not added\nup correctly here?\n\nThe killing question is: Is the actual P3E and EAGLE launch issues are\nreally a financial matter? and those very high HEO launch cost\nestimates are hiding something else?\n\n\nIf you want to see where i got theses figures go to:\n\nhttp://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedata/elvs/ariane5_specs.shtml\n\n\n\"-\"\n\n\nLuc Leblanc VE2DWE\nSkype VE2DWE\nwww.qsl.net/ve2dwe\nWAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\nNo virus found in this incoming message.\nChecked by AVG - http://www.avg.com \nVersion: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 16/12/2008\n18:11\n\n", "attachments": [] }