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        "address": "tosca005 (a) tc.umn.edu",
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    "sender_name": "John P. Toscano",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ISS a Satellite or an airplane?",
    "date": "2007-09-15T10:01:04Z",
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    "content": "Eric Christensen wrote:\n> Can someone sanity check me, please?  I'm trying to convince a guy at the ARRL that the ISS needs to be added to the LoTW as a satellite and he says it is not valid because it isn't a satellite but rather an airplane. \n> \n> Anyone out there help me with this?  \n> \n> 73s,\n> Eric W4OTN\n\nPerhaps they are thinking of the ISS only in the mode where an astronaut \ntalks to an earth station in split simplex mode.\n\nFor the purposes of a satellite QSO, they are most likely allow only the \nsituation where two earth stations talk to one another, using a \ntransponder of some sort that is in orbit. You're not talking TO the \nsatellite, you're talking THROUGH the satellite to another earth station.\n\nI believe that the ISS radio(s) can be (but only rarely are) configured \nas a cross-band repeater, in which case two earth stations WOULD be able \nto talk to one another THROUGH the orbiting ISS satellite. If this is \nthe case, it should probably be added to LOTW, since it's just like any \nother satellite transponder (except that it can be fixed in orbit if it \nbreaks!) If this is done, however, clear instructions would need to be \npromulgated to point out that it is only valid in transponder mode for a \nsatellite QSO.\n\nOTOH, when the astronauts in their space station are talking with a \nground station, that should be valid for a (non-satellite) QSO. One \nproblem becomes \"what is the location of the (non-earth station)?\" \nShould ISS be a \"location\", albeit a moving target?  I don't think it's \ntoo easy for an astronaut to give you a Maidenhead Grid Square of their \nlocation, but I guess that depends on how well a GPS works at that \naltitude and speed inside all that metal.  But people in the VHF & up \ncontesting community talk about \"high-speed roving\", and the ISS is the \nultimate high-speed rover! But there's another important issue here. \nAlthough it is crystal clear (to me, at least) that the ISS is not an \nairplane (heck, there's no AIR up there!), it behaves in many respects \nlike an aeronautical mobile station, and those are excluded from most \ncontests. So communication between an earth station and a space station \nseems to be legitimately excluded from most contests and awards.  It \nwould still be nice to have the QSL card in your collection.\n\n73 de WØJT\nAMSAT-NA Life Member #2292\n",
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