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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/GJ3KARTXOOPZZE5RJ6R4HHOTYMDR5BGQ/?format=api",
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        "address": "Paul (a) n6ev.com",
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    "sender_name": "Paul N6EV",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Why we are having this big unpleasant argument on\tyour satellite mailing list",
    "date": "2020-07-14T06:42:18Z",
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    "content": "Henry - K5YDD,\nBRAVO!  Yours is the clearest and most on-point response I've read so far.  As an outside observer like you without the cloud of bias on one side or the other, it is clear to see what is happening.   It's very sad to see the damage being inflicted on the AMSAT-NA organization at the moment.  Damage from which, regardless of the outcome of the election, will take many many years to recover, if ever.\n\n73\nPaul N6EV\nRetired Spacecraft Manager\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> On Behalf Of HenryTurner via AMSAT-BB\nSent: Monday, July 13, 2020 6:24 PM\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: Re: [amsat-bb] Why we are having this big unpleasant argument on your satellite mailing list\n\nHello all,\n\nI am not an AMSAT member.  I know no one personally or otherwise who is \nto my knowledge a member of AMSAT.  The last member I knew, was W5GEL.  \nSome may remember him.  He was well known and SK in July of 2003.  I \nhave not worked a satellite in years.  I say all this to establish that \nI truly have no connection to anyone who has responded to any of this \ndiscussion.\n\nMy basic observation is the following:  AMSAT seems to have become the \nobject of a takeover.  In the world of public companies this happens \noften, where an activist investor comes in with the intention of taking \ncontrol of the company.  The reasons for this can be varied and \ncomplex.  Be it intellectual property, general assets or general control \n(usually with a mindset that the company is being run wrongly or \nineptly.)  Because BODs in a public company are not really selected by \nall stock holders as such only by those who control the majority of the \nstock (don't fool yourself -- your vote is not equal to Buffett's, \nunless you own as many shares as he does.) The activist usually becomes \nwell known as are his intentions.  A slate of directors is put up and if \nthe activist wins, his board winners are nothing more than his proxies.  \nAMSAT is different instead of an individual buying stock for control, a \nprogram of \"get the votes\" from the general membership ensues.  To put \nit in distasteful terms a propaganda war ensues.  Your common Joe or \nJoelene just does not have the access to all that two board members did \nto get the votes to be elected.\n\nPlease don't be fooled by the, \"it was this or it was that.\" There is a \nminority who wishes to become the majority.  By bringing all this to the \npublic -- chaos ensues -- doubt clouds minds meanwhile control is \ntaken.  There are two board members who have caused upheaval they are \nproxies for another.\n\nI would suggest that whether you agree with the direction of AMSAT or \nnot, do not let it change (deserving to change or not) because of a \nhijacking or coup.  If it wasn't the attorney expense excuse it would \nhave been something else down the road.\n\nThanks, again, just an opinion based on nothing more than reading these \ndiscussions.\n\nHenry -- K5YDD\n\n",
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