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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HB6B7VDAH7E6BJGWU5CZH255T5NOP3FO/?format=api",
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    "sender_name": "Rocky Jones",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered",
    "date": "2009-09-11T19:50:10Z",
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    "content": "\nBill. I think I owe you the favor of an apology, if you sent me something off line and I didnt reply to it.  Sorry.\n\nI will check back and make sure that 1) it didnt by accident go into junk mail and 2) I just didnt miss it in the regular folders.\n\nWe had quite a crush of email over the last few weeks...my wife and I had shotgunned out a \"we are pregnant\" email...and I might have just missed it.\n\nI'll look for it tonight...\n\nRobert WB5MZO\n\n> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:38:32 -0700\n> From: [email protected]\n> To: [email protected]\n> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered\n> \n> \n> \n> Rocky Jones wrote:\n> > Bob\n> > \n> > What has been remarkable about this thread, is that it has shown how dysfunctional AMSAT NA is.\n> > \n> > Forget satelllite \n> It's satellite - by the way!\n> construction etc...people point out problems with the web site and next \n> thing you have is someone explaining who can and cannot comment on the \n> state of the organization (to paraphrase \"we dont need weak volunteers \n> who are discouraged by no real method of being able to volunteer  one \n> has to earn the right to be critical...\")\n> > \n> > Forget the ability to answer serious questions like (and I know its annoying) As a team memb\"how was the suitsat 2 program allowed to not meet the ability to use the \"suits\".\n> \n> As a SuitSat team member, I gave you a brief answer offline and offered \n> to get more detail if you so desired. You didn't respond. It's obvious \n> to me that you really don't want an answer, You just want to be a \n> boring, broken record.\n> \n> So I'll repeat the simple answer, here, why we missed the suit launch. \n> Listen up.\n> \n> The SuitSat team is made up entirely of volunteers who have real jobs, \n> families, and other responsibilities. Hey, we're just pursuing our \n> Amateur radio HOBBY - not a professional job. Some of you folks talk \n> like we're a Loral or Lockheed.  Did you critics forget that Amateur \n> radio satellites are a hobby - not a business?\n> \n> Well, by golly, along the way technical challenges delayed progress. \n> Jobs and families got in the way. Son of a gun - we missed schedules. \n> I'm not offering excuses, just offering the reality of having folks on \n> the team that aren't getting paid for their fantastic efforts.\n> \n> Sure, it's not nice to have technical issues show up or to miss \n> schedules but in the scheme of things, what have we lost - except maybe \n> creditability in YOUR eyes. We now have a new satellite structure more \n> suited for what we are trying to do technically - called ARRISat.\n> \n> The way you've been carrying on, I am so very glad we don't have you \n> volunteering - even to stuff envelopes. You'd probably say that we were \n> doing that wrong too. Personally, I thought that refunding your AMSAT \n> life membership would make me feel better, but on further reflection, \n> AMSAT should just keep your money since it is helping fund efforts to \n> serve it's members who appreciate what volunteers are trying to do for \n> them and their hobby.\n> \n> And if you think any of your comments have caused the ARRISat team to \n> miss a beat on the way to our 2010 launch, then think again. This team \n> has tackled and solved technical challenges more significant for the \n> future of AMSAT and its members, than ANY of the issues you raise.\n> \n> Regards...Bill - N6GHz\n> \n> > \n> > And from what I can tell no one has a clue why Suitsat 1 failed (I know it was a glorious success by just deploying)  much less how to avoid a repeat of that with a much more complicated followon which is now functionally a new satellite.\n> > \n> > And of course the whole concept of board meetings which really are not is entertaining.\n> > \n> > The answers are \"you cannot criticize \"us\" we are working 16 to 18 hour days doing things that no one else will do\"...\n> > \n> > and then one wonders why donations are at an all time low.\n> > \n> > Robert WB5MZO Amsat NA life member\n> > \n> > \n> > \n> > _________________________________________________________________\n> > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.\n> > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > \n\n_________________________________________________________________\nWith Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos.\nhttp://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery",
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