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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HONA624AEEULZRBYF5II5RIYIYJM7EF3/", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/", "message_id": "CAJNyT09g=FcdSOK3qcOiBSk=_-1vV7W1L-GW-OyxKtBeSfphzA@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "HONA624AEEULZRBYF5II5RIYIYJM7EF3", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/SFOJZC23TNLQVE522WVHDCKGZYNMNL7V/", "sender": { "address": "electricity440 (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "ef87c2cb0fde4895acc95c1124b6a491", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/ef87c2cb0fde4895acc95c1124b6a491/emails/" }, "sender_name": "Skyler F", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation?", "date": "2017-03-10T01:07:27Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/3N6ADIGH6L23OM6IFOCNQPNBS6WEXUTY/", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/XUF3KU7NCWW6TOIT2BEBC3UMQQDV6AHR/" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "I find it annoying that lots of the American HT's don't support cross-band\nchannels. For sure, not the new Icoms, don't think the TH-F6, but all\nChinese radios I have played with will do split band channels.\n\n\nOn Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> My FT-530 most certainly does true full duplex on mode B and mode J. You\n> must be misinformed on the features of these HT's.\n>\n> Cheers & 73,\n> Tucker\n> W4FS\n>\n>\n>\n> On Mar 9, 2017 6:55 PM, \"Gabriel Zeifman\" <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n> Even the $30 Baofengs support cross-band memories for sat operations.\n> That's how I started, but as Paul said, half-duplex on FM should not be\n> condoned now, especially as our FM birds get more and more crowded and it\n> becomes just an additional source of QRM.\n>\n> I've been very happy with my D72A. Packet is a nice feature to have to work\n> ISS and NO-84.\n>\n> 73,\n> Gabe\n> NJ7H\n>\n> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu\n> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.\n> >\n> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can\n> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.\n> >\n> > 73,\n> >\n> > Paul, N8HM\n> >\n> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]>\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> >> Message: 10\n> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500\n> >> From: Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\n> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]>\n> >> Cc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a\n> loaded\n> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...\n> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:\n> >>\n> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do\n> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!\n> >>\n> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME\n> >> single memory)?\n> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or\n> >> vice-versa.\n> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one\n> less\n> >> hand needed and far less hassle. I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this\n> via\n> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it\n> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow\n> >> cross band offsets in memory.\n> >>\n> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high\n> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my\n> HT's\n> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to\n> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by\n> using\n> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and\n> HT\n> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what\n> HAM\n> >> Radio is all about.\n> >>\n> >> Best regards,\n> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX\n> >> Sidney, OH 45365 EN70vh\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs\n> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> >> expressed\n> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >> AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n> Sent from my iPad\n>\n> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > You are simply wrong. The Kenwood TH-D72, D7, D7(G) as well as the Yaesu\n> > FT-470 and FT-530 all are excellent full-duplex HTs with no desense.\n> >\n> > It appears you are suggesting that people operate half-duplex. That can\n> > work somewhat, but is definitely not something I would ever recommend.\n> >\n> > 73,\n> >\n> > Paul, N8HM\n> >\n> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 18:25 Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]>\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> >> Message: 10\n> >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:17:14 -0500\n> >> From: Tucker McGuire <[email protected]>\n> >> To: Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]>\n> >> Cc: \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best HT for satellite operation? This is a\n> loaded\n> >> questions and every HAM I've ever met has opinions...\n> >> It is better to ask what HT's fit SAT OPs functionality:\n> >>\n> >> Everyone wants 'full duplex', I've not seen a dual-band HT that can do\n> >> 'real' RX while the PTT is pushed, period!\n> >>\n> >> Nest shoot for - What dual-band HT can program SAT offsets (in the SAME\n> >> single memory)?\n> >> My definition: in one memory can program both 2m-RX AND 70cm-PTT or\n> >> vice-versa.\n> >> Why: you only need say 4 or 5 memories per SAT for AOS/LOS OPs - one\n> less\n> >> hand needed and far less hassle. I know Yaesu and Wuoxon can do this\n> via\n> >> PC Program. Kwood TH-F6, Icom IC-91/T8, Alinco G7 cannot they can do it\n> >> only via flipping the A/B Bands (pain in the butt) - they do not allow\n> >> cross band offsets in memory.\n> >>\n> >> Now another BAD issue with Yeasu & Wuoxun is they both have a high\n> >> discharge rate of battery when in the OFF state. I found if I leave my\n> HT's\n> >> on the shelf for +60days I must isolate the battery for the radio to\n> >> eliminate wasteful discharging dropp[ing a B-Meter bar. I do this by\n> using\n> >> a 'paper' business-card cut it to size, sandwich between the battery and\n> HT\n> >> - isolating the battery contacts. Easy, simple, effective, cheap - what\n> HAM\n> >> Radio is all about.\n> >>\n> >> Best regards,\n> >> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX\n> >> Sidney, OH 45365 EN70vh\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs\n> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions\n> >> expressed\n> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >> AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n\n\n\n-- \nSkyler Fennell\namsatnet.info\nKDØWHB\[email protected]\n", "attachments": [] }