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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/HVOYDM223774RB2T3UKQSCUSREWZGL4V/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "HVOYDM223774RB2T3UKQSCUSREWZGL4V", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/ANTF3MIO5A4XM7HKF4E2LNCLLNNKRWNH/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "mvandewettering (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Mark VandeWettering", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: A0-51 \"easy sat\" not so easy for QRPers", "date": "2008-02-25T23:26:06Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/7RR37V64W6GJFFDI25BYEOGDJU2D6T5J/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/SPOPZVLRRC2V5LGUUDBT3NOJMFTPFRQ4/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Tony Langdon wrote:\n> At 08:36 AM 2/26/2008, Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> \n>>> How about trying to use the more preferred protocol of...\n>>> Callsign phonetically. grid square, op mode\n>>> Like...\n>>> Kilo-Six-Lima-Charlie-Sierra, Delta Mike 13, handheld\n>>> \n>> On FM, in my opinion, there is no need for phonetics except for\n>> calls with troublesome letters. Most calls can be heard easily\n>> without using up time with phonetics.\n>> \n>\n> I disagree, signal levels for some stations can be marginal, \n> especially on the downlink. There are also a LOT of troublesome \n> letters, particularly if your audio lacks high's. Is it a B, D, E, \n> G, P, T or V? :-) Or maybe it's a _really_ muffled C?\n> \nI mostly agree with this, there are some calls which\nare rather difficult to pull apart sometimes, and often\njust the fact that you are slowing down to say them\nphonetically helps.\n\nBut perhaps this is a good time to introduce a little personal\nrant of mine. First of all, I work satellites exclusively\nQRP with a TH-D7A and an arrow antenna (no preamp).\nThis is a fun way for me to work, and I enjoy it a great\ndeal, and quite frankly, with some ear buds I can hear\nthe satellite very well, and always get good strong signal\nreports above 10 degrees or so, which is pretty much\nthe minimum altitude I feel comfortable keying up on given\nthat my horizons are very nearly that high anyway in most\ndirections.\n\nThat's what makes the following particularly frustrating:\nsomeone with a LOT more power than me simply comes\non and blasts over my QSO. Well, that's just the half of\nit. It's even worse when they ask for a repeat (often\nmultiple times) for a callsign which I, with my completely\nmeager equipment, can hear perfectly well. Of course,\nas I patiently wait to try to jump in at the end of a QSO,\nI hear multiple people keying up and blasting over the\nsatellite. This happens time, after time, after time, after\ntime, especially on the more crowded passes over the\ncentral U.S (I'm a west coaster). \n\nYes, I understand there can be fading and the like, but\nonce the satellite is above even ten degrees, I pretty\nmuch always get full quieting from AO-51. I keep wondering\nwhy people with presumably much larger stations have\nso much more difficulty hearing the bird. I'm left with\nequally puzzling alternatives: that people running much\nmore power than I simply don't have sufficient receive\ngain to hear the satellite, or that they simply don't care\nwhether they interrupt existing communications and just\nkey up over people.\n\nSome more minor peeves: people who take a long time\nto thank people for the contact when the pass is very\nbusy, people who make a half a dozen or more contacts\non a busy pass, and people who apparently aren't listening\nclosely enough to realize that the person that they are\nreplying to has already given their callsign and grid half\na dozen times in the pass. (Yes, i know, the footprint\nis continually changing, but c'mon... it gets a little silly).\n\nBack to the original subject:\n\nI find it hard to believe that it's hard for people to send and\nreceive full quieting signals to AO-51, even with the most\nmodest of equipment, at least over the great majority of\npasses over 10 degrees or so. Perhaps if you are asking\nfor repeats, you should consider that your receive performance\nisn't the greatest, you should work on upgrading that portion\nof your station before clogging the satellite. The maxim\n\"you got to hear 'em to work 'em\" should be the motto\nof every satellite operator. \n\nHope to work more of you in the future.\n\n Mark KF6KYI\n\n> Also, if there is fading, the longer phonetics may still get enough \n> information through to avoid a repeat. Repeats are more costly in \n> terms of time, when they occur. And don't forget the impact of \n> different accents. I have enough problems with getting my details to \n> a lot of Americans (even when using phonetics!) over a good, strong \n> IRLP link. At least the smaller footprint of a LEO limits the \n> variety of regional accents in many cases.\n>\n> 73 de VK3JED\n> http://vkradio.com\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> \n\n", "attachments": [] }