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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/I6DI4CN3OHY7EY4VYEUSJTV5SX3QVOKS/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "I6DI4CN3OHY7EY4VYEUSJTV5SX3QVOKS", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/I6DI4CN3OHY7EY4VYEUSJTV5SX3QVOKS/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "w8iss (a) wideopenwest.com", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "James French", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal", "date": "2010-08-30T09:56:53Z", "parent": null, "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/U2XYE75EERQGLNBSRWCL7D72KVTRF5LC/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hello Joe and the list.\n\nIf I can explain a little about how bulk mailing works, it might help explain \nsome issues that people have with getting the journal. I work for a printer \nthat does bulk mailings also and this is how they do things. AMSAT's printer \nmay do it a totally different way than how my employer does it.\n\nFirst, It all depends on when the mailer gets the printed copies. There may be \nissues with paper used, when the files arrive, scheduled deadlines met on time, \nthings like that.\n\nSecond, the sender supplies a file with names and addresses that need to be \nprinted onto either labels or onto the printed material in a certain space. \nThis takes about anywhere from 30 minutes to a whole day (equipment issues) to \nset up aligning the print heads. Each process has its own procedures and \ndiffers between mailers.\n\nThird, depending on what the volume (quantity) is, it could take a day to a \nweek to print names and addresses onto the printed material.\n\nFourth, keeping the addresses sorted so that they are going to the right \ndestination can get complex sometimes.\n\nFifth, after everything is sorted by zip codes and destinations, then comes \nshipping via semi to the separate sort facilities across the country and \noutside country destinations. Yes, depending on quantity, bulk mailing gets \nshipped to sort facilities across the country by contracted carriers.\n\nSixth, it could take as much as a week to get from the mailers dock to a sort \nfacility on the other side of the country depending on where the mailer is \nlocated.\n\nIf you look at the mailing label area on your journal next time, you'll see \nthat little square that has this saying in it:\n\nPeriodicals\nPOSTAGE PAID\nAt Silver Springs, MD\nand at additional mailing offices\n\nthat means that it has gone from the mailer to at least one sort facility in \nthe path before it gets to your local post office and your home mailbox.\n\nThere is also meeting the criteria of how the USPS wants things sorted and \nweighed and..... The list is endless currently. My place of employment has had \nthe USPS reject a load because it either weighed one pound more or less than \nwhat is stated on the documents. The USPS also has guidelines that have to be \nmet about thickness and weight of paper. That can hold up a mailing also.\n\nThis is not to say that this is how AMSAT does the mailing of the journal. I \nam just stating how its done at my place of employment to give everyone an \nidea of what it takes to mail the Journal each time. Things do change each \ntime the Journal is mailed so that has to be taken into account each time. \nProposed deadlines have to be met to keep things flowing. If one deadline is \nnot met, that can hold things up by a week or more.\n\nThe times I gave are based on a mailing of several hundreds of thousands \nhaving to have addresses printed onto them.\n\nYou also have to remember that the printer that AMSAT uses has to make \ndeadlines also. The printer could be the same business that does the mailing \nwhich does help.\n\nAMSAT only has to do roughly almost ten thousand printings of the Journal each \ntime. This takes time on the presses to set up. Based on where I work, the \nJournal would go onto the sheetfed press not the 4 color offset press because \nof the quantity amount. Which means a little bit more cost in paper, press \ntime, and setup.\n\nThen it moves out to the bindery department to be folded, cut, and stapled to \nits final size for the mailing department.\n\nI hope this explains some about why one person may get a journal before \nanother person does. I know it doesn't explain everything but it gives \neveryone an idea of what it takes to get the journal mailed.\n\nJames W8ISS\n", "attachments": [] }