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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/IKJCTVDFAEACBXKY257FGWPT5UCKS323/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "IKJCTVDFAEACBXKY257FGWPT5UCKS323", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/IKJCTVDFAEACBXKY257FGWPT5UCKS323/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "w7pn (a) rtconnect.net", "mailman_id": null, "emails": null }, "sender_name": "Skip Prinsen", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: IC-910H UX-910 Unit Question", "date": "2007-12-21T17:08:20Z", "parent": null, "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi John,\n\nThe physical installation is listed in the documentation with the \nUX-910 1200Mhz Band Unit. If you look on page 73 of the Instruction \nManual for the IC-910H it also gives instructions for installing the \nunit. The operational display is explained in the 910H manual on \npages 19-21. Pressing and holding the BAND M/S button the front of \nthe radio will switch the unselected band in place of one of the \ndisplayed bands. You basically only have to bands that you can \noperate at a time.\n\nI hope that I have not confused you. It is explained in the manual. \nThe manual can be downloaded at the following URL.\n\nhttp://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=31\n\n73 de Skip W7PN\n\n\n\nAt 04:23 PM 12/21/2007, you wrote:\n>Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to\n> [email protected]\n>\n>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\n> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\n> [email protected]\n>\n>You can reach the person managing the list at\n> [email protected]\n>\n>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\n>than \"Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest...\"\n>\n>\n>Today's Topics:\n>\n> 1. Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ? (Ricardo Trujillo)\n> 2. Re: Tracking Santa ? (Paul Luggar)\n> 3. IC-910H UX-910 Unit Question (John Henderson)\n> 4. Re: [SPAM] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ? (Robert Bruninga)\n> 5. Re: Looks like ANDE is coming down! (Robert Bruninga)\n> 6. Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals (Andrew Glasbrenner)\n> 7. Re: Orbital Classroom -Where is it????????? (R.Haighton)\n> 8. Tracking or Talking To Santa ? (James)\n> 9. LEO EmComm (and Meteor Scatter as well) (Robert Bruninga)\n> 10. Re: Looks like ANDE is coming down! (Stefan Wagener)\n> 11. Out of Office (Martha)\n> 12. Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals (Andrew Rich)\n> 13. Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ? (David Bern)\n> 14. Re: [SPAM] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ? (David Bern)\n>\n>\n>----------------------------------------------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 1\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:44:37 -0500\n>From: Ricardo Trujillo <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n>To: Jim Jerzycke <[email protected]>\n>Cc: [email protected], 'David Bern' <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\n>\n>Same here, waiting for mine to arrive.\n>Happy Holidays,\n>Ricardo, W3/HK4BHA\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>Jim Jerzycke wrote:\n> > Still waiting for mine, but it's good to hear others\n> > are receiving theirs.\n> > Jim KQ6EA\n> >\n> > --- \"Tom Azlin, N4ZPT\" <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> >\n> >> Hi Bob,\n> >>\n> >> 2 of the 3 I am expecting came in today. So the 3rd\n> >> should be along\n> >> shortly. No notice that they were coming.\n> >>\n> >> 73, Tom n4zpt\n> >>\n> >> Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> >>\n> >>> OLPC:\n> >>>\n> >>> Anyone know when to expect delivery on the\n> >>>\n> >> one-laptop-per-child,\n> >>\n> >>> or did both of mine go to peru? I think several\n> >>>\n> >> people on here\n> >>\n> >>> ordered one.\n> >>>\n> >>> Bob, WB4APR\n> >>>\n> >>>\n> >>>> -----Original Message-----\n> >>>> From: David Bern [mailto:[email protected]]\n> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:28 AM\n> >>>> To: [email protected]\n> >>>> Cc: Tom Azlin, N4ZPT; David Bern; Adam Bern\n> >>>> Subject: Re: APRS idea and ordered two XO-1\n> >>>>\n> >>>> Bob:\n> >>>>\n> >>>> Maybe we could all get together for lunch or\n> >>>>\n> >> dinner\n> >>\n> >>>> with our new XO-1 computers.... Note that the\n> >>>> software in the XO-1s is open source and we\n> >>>> should be able run the mesh networking software\n> >>>> on any Linux computer....\n> >>>>\n> >>>> The Hinternet folks have playing with 803.11 for\n> >>>> years now. Do a Google search on \"HSMM\".\n> >>>> WiMax technology is coming down line and that is\n> >>>>\n> >> more\n> >>\n> >>>> oriented as a MAN (metropolitan area network).\n> >>>>\n> >>>> David W2LNX\n> >>>>\n> >>>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are\n> >> those of the author.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the\n> >> amateur satellite program!\n> >> Subscription settings:\n> >> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >>\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 2\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:08:50 -0000\n>From: \"Paul Luggar\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tracking Santa ?\n>To: \"Roger Kolakowski\" <[email protected]>, \"Keith N4ZQ\"\n> <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=\"iso-8859-1\";\n> reply-type=original\n>\n>I always \"launch\" a Santa on APRS over Christmas, keep amn eye out for him!\n>Happy Christmas All!\n>\n>\n>Paul Luggar.\n>M0SCI\n>\n>\n>\n>----- Original Message -----\n>From: \"Roger Kolakowski\" <[email protected]>\n>To: \"Keith N4ZQ\" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\n>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 1:25 PM\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tracking Santa ?\n>\n>\n> > I'm sure Santa uses a Polar Orbit so that he can restock every hour and a\n> > half or so...I would bet that \"flyovers\" ranging from around Midnight to 4\n> > am would pretty much fit his needs if Tom Hanks and Chevy Chase don't get\n> > in\n> > his way.\n> >\n> > Roger\n> > WA1KAT\n> >\n> > ----- Original Message -----\n> > From: \"Keith N4ZQ\" <[email protected]>\n> > To: <[email protected]>\n> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 5:37 AM\n> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking Santa ?\n> >\n> >\n> >> The grand kids would like to track Santa Christmas eve, just to make sure\n> > he is on his way. Anyone got any Keps for him and his team of reindeer?\n> >>\n> >> Merry Christmas.. Keith N4ZQ\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _____________________________________________________________\n> >> Free comparison of top car rental companies. Click Here!\n> >>\n> > \n> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4uHs754D7Oow5r9pOqxzKJlb88dhnV6RtMaePLjJMaoHJ2oF/\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 3\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:19:46 -0500\n>From: \"John Henderson\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910H UX-910 Unit Question\n>To: <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n>\n>I am considering buying the UX-910. When installing the 1200mhz unit how\n>does it display? I can't find any docs on how to use the unit?\n>\n>Thanks for any help, I must be missing something in the literature.\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n> John\n>\n> John Henderson N4NAB\n>\n> 212 Bayside Drive\n>\n> Cape Carteret, NC 28584\n>\n> 252-725-2744\n>\n> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]\n>\n> <http://www.amsat.org/> http://www.amsat.org/\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 4\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:22:34 -0500\n>From: \"Robert Bruninga\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n>To: <[email protected]>, \"'Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604'\"\n> <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>\n>Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n>\n> > Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n> > Have I missed something ?\n> > Are these good for Ham Radio applications ?\n>\n>The way I see it:\n>* Goal is $100 laptop\n>* Runs under Linux\n>* Excellent visibility in bright sun\n>* Runs Display uses only 0.1W in sun\n>* Can be charged by solar power\n>* built-in 802.11 wireless plus automatic MESHING with others\n>* Targeted at youth worldwide...\n>\n>And on and on...\n>\n>Seems the perfect platform for HAM radio!\n>\n>Bob, WB4APR\n> >\n> >\n> > --------------------------------------------------------------\n> > --------------\n> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n> > http://www.tech-software.net\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: [email protected]\n>[mailto:[email protected]]On\n> > Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604\n> > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 4:23 PM\n> > To: [email protected]\n> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];\n>[email protected]\n> > Subject: [SPAM] [amsat-bb] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n> > Importance: Low\n> >\n> >\n> > I got mine- no notice.\n> >\n> > 73, doug\n> >\n> > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:07:49 -0500\n> > From: \"Tom Azlin, N4ZPT\" <[email protected]>\n> >\n> > Hi Bob,\n> >\n> > 2 of the 3 I am expecting came in today. So the 3rd should\n>be along\n> > shortly. No notice that they were coming.\n> >\n> > 73, Tom n4zpt\n> >\n> > Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> > > OLPC:\n> > >\n> > > Anyone know when to expect delivery on the\n>one-laptop-per-child,\n> > > or did both of mine go to peru? I think several people\n>on here\n> > > ordered one.\n> > >\n> > > Bob, WB4APR\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of\n> > the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur\n> > satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings:\n>http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of\n> > the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur\n> > satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings:\n>http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 5\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:27:13 -0500\n>From: \"Robert Bruninga\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Looks like ANDE is coming down!\n>To: \"'Ron Hashiro'\" <[email protected]>, \"'Lauret& Henk'\"\n> <[email protected]>\n>Cc: [email protected]\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n>\n>Ron, same here. During my best AM pass, I only decoded one\n>packet!\n>\n>Warming and cooling is expected. The warming we have been\n>seeing is mostly due to ANDE's orbit precessing into a full sun\n>phase that also happened to coincide with the winter solstice.\n>\n>That peak for ANDE just passed yesterday, so it will be cooling.\n>(Eclipses are getting longer). It will be interesting to see\n>how much of the warming was due to the sun angles and if any of\n>it yet is due to friction..\n>\n>See the trends on the \"side A telemetry\" link on the ANDE web\n>page:\n>\n>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html\n>\n>Bob\n>\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: Ron Hashiro [mailto:[email protected]]\n> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:51 AM\n> > To: Robert Bruninga; 'Lauret& Henk'\n> > Subject: Looks like ANDE is coming down in about a day or so\n>(?)\n> >\n> > ANDE's at 118 sm, according to the keps. Mighty low.\n> >\n> > The onboard temperature started to dip. Unexpected.\n> >\n> > I'll be off island starting Dec 27. The remaining passes are\n> > poor for\n> > me. Sorry Henk and Bob, I don't make it for the certificate.\n>I did\n> > hear audio, but could not decode the S3 signal on a 24 degree\n> > pass with\n> > a 3 el Arrow.\n> >\n> > Ron H\n> >\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 6\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:44:28 -0500\n>From: \"Andrew Glasbrenner\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals\n>To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <13FC590193724F8FA00A87DF2AF384D6@Andrewlaptop>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=\"iso-8859-1\";\n> reply-type=original\n>\n>AO-51 is LHCP on 435.150, RHCP on 435.300, and linear on 2401.200. If your\n>helix is LHCP and you are listening to the .300 voice downlink, you are in\n>the neighborhood of 20db down from a RHCP helix.\n>\n>73, Drew KO4MA\n>\n>----- Original Message -----\n>From: \"Andrew Rich\" <[email protected]>\n>To: \"Jeff Mock\" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\n>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 6:20 AM\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals\n>\n>\n> > Does ao-51 have circular ?\n> >\n> > I have LHCP on my antenna\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > \n> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n> > http://www.tech-software.net\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: Jeff Mock [mailto:[email protected]]\n> > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 9:16 PM\n> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]\n> > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [amsat-bb] AO51 Signals\n> > Importance: Low\n> >\n> >\n> > The RG-213 loss should be less than 3dB if I remember correctly, I think\n> > you're okay there. Did you twist the helix the right direction?\n> >\n> > jeff\n> >\n> >\n> > Andrew Rich wrote:\n> >> Hello\n> >>\n> >> I built a 10 turn helix for 435 MHz.\n> >>\n> >> I have 15 meters of RG-213.\n> >>\n> >> Radio is an ICOM 706 mkii G\n> >>\n> >> I am not getting strong signals like I would have expected ?\n> >>\n> >> Can someone share their setups and signal strengths ?\n> >>\n> >> Maybe a pre-amp might help ?\n> >>\n> >> Am I getting too much loss in the cable ?\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------\n> > --\n> >> Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> >> [email protected]\n> >> http://www.tech-software.net\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 7\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:03:07 -0500\n>From: \"R.Haighton\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Orbital Classroom -Where is it?????????\n>To: \"'Stefan Wagener'\" <[email protected]>,\n> <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <004d01c843e2$9abf5740$d03e05c0$@ca>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n>\n>Stefan,\n>Well AMSAT does have a director of Education but unfortunately I don't see\n>too much happening.\n>I fully support your Idea, and in time past there was so many good papers at\n>the symposium on the (then being built)\n>Satellites that they were a complete technical education program. I recall\n>the various members of the AO-40 team explaining about every system being\n>designed and the problems encountered and the solutions, etc\n>Similarly the means of heat dissipation (AO-40) and stabilization of the\n>spacecraft (A0-40 & Microsats). So much good stuff that it made our heads\n>spin!\n>One came away from the Meetings with determination to see the projects\n>completed even if it meant \"Empty Pockets!\"\n>I would like to hope that through your initiative we could return to those\n>days..... This is not to take anything away from Eagle or P4 but to\n>supplement those programs.\n>73\n>Robin Haighton VE3FRH\n>Past President AMSAT\n>\n>-----Original Message-----\n>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On\n>Behalf Of Stefan Wagener\n>Sent: December 20, 2007 11:19 PM\n>To: [email protected]\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbital Classroom -Where is it?????????\n>\n>Hi folks,\n>\n>Having read through many, many emails about Eagle, GEO's and other stuff I\n>would like to introduce an idea that has captured me for a few years (!) now\n>and has never come up. We all agree (I assume) that amateur radio and\n>satellites is a great combination and fun. I assume most of us love it and\n>those that don't at least make a living from it otherwise they wouldn't do\n>it. In addition, the big majority of us have some grey hairs, but we are\n>still trying to learn and challenge our brains (scary thought). Having said\n>that, when I came back from the AMSAT annual meeting (symposium) this year I\n>felt we missed a great opportunity and to be more specific we have absolute\n>nothing in place to teach and educate our members and the community. Yes, we\n>go to hamfests and events and have a pretty PowerPoint or in the \"parking\n>lot\" demo, but where are the courses, the classes that help us better\n>understand for example the orbital mechanics of a satellites, the satellite\n>communication principles for VHF and UHF, the design of L and S band\n>antennas? All the stuff that goes beyond our basic license and would keep us\n>learning????\n>\n>I look at the ARRL and see many exciting courses and AMSAT has nothing in\n>place. Some of the material has been written up and I applaud Gould Smith\n>and others that took the time to write these documents.\n>\n>The problem is that they are books! No interaction, no feedback, etc. I\n>believe we can do so much more.\n>\n>Why don't we have pre-conference courses at AMSAT meetings that allow our\n>participants to learn? Why don't we offer certificates for continuing\n>education based on accomplishments in learning and become much more\n>educated? Where is the course on emergency preparedness and satellites (GEOs\n>anyone). How do I interpret two line Keppler data and what will happen if I\n>modify some of those numbers (ANDE re-entry anyone)? How about a basic\n>course in SRD or building small beautiful satellites and lessons learned\n>(Bob Bruninga's ideas). All this would add value, probably generate some\n>resources for AMSAT (course fees) and make us proud of learning and sharing\n>knowledge and not just opinions. For example, I would have no problem adding\n>$ 30 -50 to my registration fee for the AMSAT symposium and having a full\n>day workshop. Everyone else is doing it and all the conferences I go to.\n>\n>No, I am not talking about amateur satellite 101 for newcomers (that still\n>is important), I am talking about \"meat\" for those that are part of the\n>hobby already and want to move to the next level of knowledge. We have\n>thousands of members and our pool of potential instructors is big. I would\n>highly encourage the board to seriously look at this. I know that Rick\n>Hambly is fully committed to make the education a bigger part of AMSAT and\n>we need to support him. I for one have no problem in teaching and\n>volunteering for a course at the next AMSAT meeting but it would be very\n>nice if you share your thoughts about this. Maybe it is just me and everyone\n>else is fine but maybe the next \"Orbital Classroom\" is finally that, a\n>classroom and not just a two page paper in the journal!\n>\n>\n>\n>Have a great Christmas and Holiday Season and many contacts in 2008.\n>\n>\n>\n>_______________________________________________\n>Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 8\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:14:08 -0500\n>From: \"James\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking or Talking To Santa ?\n>To: <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <004601c843e4$238878d0$7d00a8c0@kb7tbt>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=\"iso-8859-1\";\n> reply-type=original\n>\n>This is a great answer!..\n>Just wanted to remind or inform folks that Santa will be on 14.300 dec\n>23/24.\n>Bring the kids!\n>\n>James\n>KB7TBT\n>\n> > Sorry, Keith, Santa's trajectory is far to complex to be described by\n> > Keps. The stochastic nature of disturbances and external forces (e.g.\n> > Cindy Lou Who) are not well modeled by our tracking programs. NORAD has,\n> > however, developed special techniques to track him. Please see\n> > http://www.noradsanta.org/ for details.\n> >\n> > -Joe KM1P\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 9\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:16:49 -0500\n>From: \"Robert Bruninga\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] LEO EmComm (and Meteor Scatter as well)\n>To: <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n>\n> > ...there are some show stoppers, at least when\n> > using LEO birds. It takes a fair amount of\n> > theoretical understanding to get to the point where\n> > operating practice can yield functional capability.\n>\n>Agree completely.\n>\n>That is why I think a very thin slice of this puzzle is the LEO\n>APRS channel where the sender needs zero knowledge about\n>satellites. He just sets his emergency outgoing message into\n>his APRS radio or TNC, and leaves it running for a few hours,\n>and he can be assured that his email is delivered.\n>\n>If ISS is working, then return messages to the mobile are\n>possible.\n>\n>Again, not at all suggesting that this detract even the\n>slightest from the great initiaves that are now underway for\n>real-time EmComm. But because it is there now (sorta) and is so\n>easy to add to, and can be used by anyone with even the basic\n>understanding of a TNC or packet (though that knowledge has\n>really deminished by an order of magnitude since the 80's and\n>90's), I think it is worth practicing.\n>\n>Also, this EmComm low-rate outbound Email concept has spawned a\n>new look at 6 meter Meteor Scatter comunications using the cheap\n>100W 6m radios that are so easy to find these days. If we just\n>add 6m receivers to many of our existing APRS Igates, then an\n>emergecy email can be transmittied out of an area for an hour or\n>so and have very good probbility that it was deliverd.\n>\n>See the web page:\n>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/meteors.html\n>\n>With the global APRS network listening 24/7 everywhere for\n>messages (on VHF, HF, Satellites and now Meteor Scatter, only\n>the sender has to SEND his EmComm Email report, the rest is\n>already done.\n>\n>Bob, WB4APR\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 10\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:37:20 -0600\n>From: Stefan Wagener <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Looks like ANDE is coming down!\n>To: <[email protected]>, \"'Ron Hashiro'\" <[email protected]>,\n> \"'Lauret& Henk'\" <[email protected]>\n>Cc: [email protected]\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n>\n>\n>Hi Bob,\n>\n>Here you go from this morning:\n>\n>15:22 -15:24 (UTC), 12-21-07; EN19lx\n>...........................................................................\n>\n>Fm ANDE-1 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 \n>Len=39 >[09:22:56]T#001,016,182,155,001,108,00000110,194\n>\n>Fm ANDE-1 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 \n>Len=39 >[09:23:48]T#002,153,159,135,159,150,10101111,381\n>\n>Fm ANDE-1 To BEACON <UI pid=F0 \n>Len=39 >[09:24:08]T#004,017,182,155,001,108,00000110,381\n>\n>..........................................................................> \n>From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]; \n>[email protected]> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:27:13 -0500> CC: \n>[email protected]> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Looks like ANDE is \n>coming down!> > Ron, same here. During my best AM pass, I only \n>decoded one> packet!> > Warming and cooling is expected. The warming \n>we have been> seeing is mostly due to ANDE's orbit precessing into a \n>full sun> phase that also happened to coincide with the winter \n>solstice. > > That peak for ANDE just passed yesterday, so it will \n>be cooling.> (Eclipses are getting longer). It will be interesting \n>to see> how much of the warming was due to the sun angles and if any \n>of> it yet is due to friction..> > See the trends on the \"side A \n>telemetry\" link on the ANDE web> page:> > \n>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-ops.html> > Bob > > > \n>-----Original Message-----> > From: Ron Hashiro \n>[mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, Dec!\n> ember 21, 2007 2:51 AM> > To: Robert Bruninga; 'Lauret& Henk'> > \n> Subject: Looks like ANDE is coming down in about a day or so> \n> (?)> > > > ANDE's at 118 sm, according to the keps. Mighty \n> low.> > > > The onboard temperature started to dip. \n> Unexpected.> > > > I'll be off island starting Dec 27. The \n> remaining passes are > > poor for > > me. Sorry Henk and Bob, I \n> don't make it for the certificate.> I did > > hear audio, but could \n> not decode the S3 signal on a 24 degree > > pass with > > a 3 el \n> Arrow.> > > > Ron H> > > > > > \n> _______________________________________________> Sent via \n> [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.> \n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n> program!> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 11\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:44:22 -0500\n>From: Martha <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Out of Office\n>To: [email protected]\n>Message-ID:\n> <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n>\n>After 30 years, I am taking 2 weeks off. I will be out of the office from\n>Dec 24- Jan 4th. Please note that the LVB boxes have not yet arrived so I\n>will begin calling people on the waiting list when I return. To speed the\n>process up, you can place your order on the store so it will be waiting for\n>me when I get back. Have a HEALTHY, HAPPY NEW YEAR!\n>\n>--\n>73- Martha\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 12\n>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:50:18 +1000\n>From: \"Andrew Rich\" <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals\n>To: \"Andrew Glasbrenner\" <[email protected]>,\n> <[email protected]>\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n>\n>Thats interesting about the affect of wrong polarisation - 20dB\n>\n>According to my other info here that is about S4 to S7 difference.\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n>Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n>http://www.tech-software.net\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>-----Original Message-----\n>From: Andrew Glasbrenner [mailto:[email protected]]\n>Sent: Saturday, 22 December 2007 12:44 AM\n>To: [email protected]; [email protected]\n>Subject: [SPAM] Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals\n>Importance: Low\n>\n>\n>AO-51 is LHCP on 435.150, RHCP on 435.300, and linear on 2401.200. If your\n>helix is LHCP and you are listening to the .300 voice downlink, you are in\n>the neighborhood of 20db down from a RHCP helix.\n>\n>73, Drew KO4MA\n>\n>----- Original Message -----\n>From: \"Andrew Rich\" <[email protected]>\n>To: \"Jeff Mock\" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\n>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 6:20 AM\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: AO51 Signals\n>\n>\n> > Does ao-51 have circular ?\n> >\n> > I have LHCP on my antenna\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------\n>--\n> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n> > http://www.tech-software.net\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: Jeff Mock [mailto:[email protected]]\n> > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 9:16 PM\n> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]\n> > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [amsat-bb] AO51 Signals\n> > Importance: Low\n> >\n> >\n> > The RG-213 loss should be less than 3dB if I remember correctly, I think\n> > you're okay there. Did you twist the helix the right direction?\n> >\n> > jeff\n> >\n> >\n> > Andrew Rich wrote:\n> >> Hello\n> >>\n> >> I built a 10 turn helix for 435 MHz.\n> >>\n> >> I have 15 meters of RG-213.\n> >>\n> >> Radio is an ICOM 706 mkii G\n> >>\n> >> I am not getting strong signals like I would have expected ?\n> >>\n> >> Can someone share their setups and signal strengths ?\n> >>\n> >> Maybe a pre-amp might help ?\n> >>\n> >> Am I getting too much loss in the cable ?\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------\n>-\n> > --\n> >> Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> >> [email protected]\n> >> http://www.tech-software.net\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 13\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:50:21 -0500\n>From: David Bern <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n>To: [email protected]\n>Cc: 'Adam Bern' <[email protected]>, 'David Bern'\n> <[email protected]>, [email protected]\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\n>\n>I got FedEx emails *after* the XOs arrived.\n>\n>David W2LNX\n>\n>\n>[email protected] wrote:\n> > Hi Bob,\n> >\n> > 2 of the 3 I am expecting came in today. So the 3rd should be along\n> > shortly. No notice that they were coming.\n> >\n> > 73, Tom n4zpt\n> >\n> > Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> >> OLPC:\n> >>\n> >> Anyone know when to expect delivery on the one-laptop-per-child,\n> >> or did both of mine go to peru? I think several people on here\n> >> ordered one.\n> >>\n> >> Bob, WB4APR\n> >>> -----Original Message-----\n> >>> From: David Bern [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday,\n> >>> November 15, 2007 8:28 AM\n> >>> To: [email protected]\n> >>> Cc: Tom Azlin, N4ZPT; David Bern; Adam Bern\n> >>> Subject: Re: APRS idea and ordered two XO-1\n> >>>\n> >>> Bob:\n> >>>\n> >>> Maybe we could all get together for lunch or dinner with our new\n> >>> XO-1 computers.... Note that the software in the XO-1s is open\n> >>> source and we should be able run the mesh networking software on any\n> >>> Linux computer....\n> >>>\n> >>> The Hinternet folks have playing with 803.11 for years now. Do a\n> >>> Google search on \"HSMM\". WiMax technology is coming down line and\n> >>> that is more oriented as a MAN (metropolitan area network).\n> >>>\n> >>> David W2LNX\n> >>\n> >>\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>Message: 14\n>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:53:09 -0500\n>From: David Bern <[email protected]>\n>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n>To: [email protected]\n>Cc: [email protected], [email protected], Doug Faunt N6TQS\n> +1-510-655-8604 <[email protected]>, [email protected]\n>Message-ID: <[email protected]>\n>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\n>\n>Andrew:\n>\n>Allegedly these laptops are designed to visible in even direct\n>sunlight. My interest is figuring out how to run PSK-31 in these laptops.\n>\n>David W2LNX\n>\n>[email protected] wrote:\n> > Have I missed something ?\n> >\n> > Are these good for Ham Radio applications ?\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > \n> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC\n> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>\n> > http://www.tech-software.net\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> >\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On\n> > Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604\n> > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 4:23 PM\n> > To: [email protected]\n> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]\n> > Subject: [SPAM] [amsat-bb] Re: One-Laptop-per-Child two XO-1 ?\n> > Importance: Low\n> >\n> >\n> > I got mine- no notice.\n> >\n> > 73, doug\n> >\n> > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:07:49 -0500\n> > From: \"Tom Azlin, N4ZPT\" <[email protected]>\n> >\n> > Hi Bob,\n> >\n> > 2 of the 3 I am expecting came in today. So the 3rd should be along\n> > shortly. No notice that they were coming.\n> >\n> > 73, Tom n4zpt\n> >\n> > Robert Bruninga wrote:\n> > > OLPC:\n> > >\n> > > Anyone know when to expect delivery on the one-laptop-per-child,\n> > > or did both of mine go to peru? I think several people on here\n> > > ordered one.\n> > >\n> > > Bob, WB4APR\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> >\n>\n>\n>\n>------------------------------\n>\n>_______________________________________________\n>Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>Not an AMSAT member? 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