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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/ILAIQNJ4577PNROI3DDJGX2ZY4KDPTXR/",
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    "sender_name": "Nate Duehr",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb]  Fwd:  Re: S band interference solution",
    "date": "2006-10-05T18:37:14Z",
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    "content": "\n\nBegin forwarded message:\n\n> From: Nate Duehr <[email protected]>\n> Date: October 5, 2006 12:36:38 PM MDT\n> To: [email protected]\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: S band interference solution\n>\n> On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:40 AM, John Champa wrote:\n>> Nate,\n>>\n>> I am happy to report that I get along with my neighbors very well,  \n>> thank you,\n>> so none of these TVI-type suggestions were any problem whatsoever  \n>> at this QTH.\n>>\n>> Have you ever read any texts from the ARRL, etc. on how to manage  \n>> a TVI problem?\n>> They are not as popular as they once were, but you can still find  \n>> them around.\n>>\n>> They will help you in the social skills areas, another big weak  \n>> point for most Hams.\n>>\n>> 73, John\n>\n> John,\n>\n> You completely misread my comments.   I do just fine with social  \n> skills and know the neighbors.\n>\n> What I *don't* want is to become the neighbor's \"tech support\" guy  \n> by having a conversation with them about 2.4 interference or  \n> \"helping\" them with their router.  They don't know I can fix their  \n> routers, computers, whatever... and I'd pretty much like to keep it  \n> that way.\n>\n> I didn't make any TVI suggestions at all.  Not sure where you got  \n> that from.\n>\n> I was just (humorously) pointing out that:\n>\n> Being forced to deal with interference that's built-into the band- \n> plan given us by the FCC if 2.4 is flown brings added complexity  \n> and time necessary that many hams will simply avoid.  Not because  \n> the technical details of hunting down low-power interference  \n> sources is difficult, but because you have to go pester the  \n> neighbors, ultimately leading to a number of other complex problems  \n> completely unrelated to ham radio.\n>\n> For someone who just wants to get on and operate, finding out they  \n> have to first hunt down local interference in the neighborhood will  \n> simply mean they don't operate at all.\n>\n> I'm not the \"just want to operate\" type, but I certainly don't want  \n> to involve myself in the nightmare that is known as my neighbor's  \n> home computers.  I do computers and networking and  \n> telecommunications for a living -- fixing someone's (permanently)  \n> broken Windows box, isn't my idea of fun, interesting, or even  \n> slightly amusing anymore.  Unless someone wants to pay me my usual  \n> overtime rate for it.\n>\n> Walking next door to futz with the neighbor's 802.11 devices opens  \n> me up to that.\n>\n> Currently I can \"hear\" six 802.11 devices from my back porch in a  \n> suburban area without a gain antenna, using the built-in antenna on  \n> my laptop.  And those are the ones that are broadcasting an SSID,  \n> and of course this doesn't include cordless phones.   900 MHz ham  \n> is similarly trashed by various unlicensed \"household electronic  \n> stuff\" I'm not going to bother hunting down.\n>\n> It's not getting any better where I live, and I'm in Denver.  And  \n> in places where housing is more compact... it must be far worse by  \n> now.\n>\n> Nate WY0X\n>\n> --\n> Nate Duehr\n> [email protected]\n>\n>\n>\n\n--\nNate Duehr\[email protected]\n\n\n\n",
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