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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/IUVMAN53Y7QFNB3XMJEZBNFC7WYJDHR6/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "CABsMmtRvk7euqD+LppQ7==+5WxYM6gfEeAK=RqCVPm08e-z4rA@mail.gmail.com", "message_id_hash": "IUVMAN53Y7QFNB3XMJEZBNFC7WYJDHR6", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/YOY2QIJ3FWQO6C2WIQQYT3PUZHD5XTPC/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "johnnykludt (a) gmail.com", "mailman_id": "1052971820fa4c30a2a6e76a33ee243f", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/1052971820fa4c30a2a6e76a33ee243f/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "John Kludt", "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Poor Operators", "date": "2020-03-19T19:36:55Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/QLTBMFTVYQFVEVARTZCYXBQ5W4VPMHRV/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/M5JP52IAQMMPMFXMQ5M22QZIPODTLLYF/?format=api", "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/MSSNW7SELZZEJXC52VGIGYJD3GUMBHSZ/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "All,\n\nThere is another practice that I have not seen addressed here that makes\nthing really tough - talking way too fast. I understand the reason but\nfast talking just leads to the request for repeats which means more traffic\nand/or busted Q's. So in addition to turn down the power how about\ntalking just a little slowly and more clearly?\n\nJust a suggestion.\n\nJohn K4SQC\n\nOn Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:03 PM Isaac C via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> ps -. it was SO-50, pass 11:58 local time, Mar 12.\n>\n> On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Isaac C <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> > Mike,\n> > I am Isaac, W4ITC, grid FM14.\n> > I am maybe two weeks ahead of you in the newbie category. I just got my\n> > first QSO/QSL on March 12.\n> > I connected with W0NBC.\n> > After me, you can hear WB3CSY do an expert connection with someone else.\n> > I listened to many passed before I was brave enough to talk. It probably\n> > shows.\n> > My rig is qty 2 Baofengs @ 5w with a WA5VJB home-made antenna.\n> >\n> > Best luck.\n> >\n> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14YSF3hL6NBtRMkcw3gDcx8VURQ3dB\n> > UNl/view?usp=drivesdk\n> >\n> >\n> > On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Mike Wilhelm via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]>\n> > wrote:\n> >\n> >> I've been collecting equipment and waiting for the right time to try and\n> >> get on a bird. Life is too busy...\n> >> Anyway, it might be helpful if there were a few audio examples we could\n> >> pass on to newbies and uninformed operators of good and bad operating.\n> I\n> >> would recommend beeping out any parts of the call sign for any examples\n> of\n> >> poor operation. I'd sure like to hear them. Maybe even post them to a\n> >> section on the AMSAT page covering operating? I apologize if this is\n> >> already out there...back to that too busy thing again. I haven't had\n> many\n> >> opportunities to take my FT-470 outside with my Arrow and chase a bird.\n> >> The QSOs I've heard seem like they go so fast and I'd hate to annoy\n> anyone\n> >> by being the slowpoke.\n> >> 73! Mike AF5AT\n> >>\n> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:52 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <\n> >> [email protected]>\n> >> wrote:\n> >>\n> >> > I am a minimalist because I want to be a minimalist. I understand that\n> >> the\n> >> > FM bird is nothing more than a repeater and the strongest signal takes\n> >> the\n> >> > bird, even if someone else is talking. \"Someone else is talking\" is\n> the\n> >> > rude part. Last weekend, I was chasing a rover and got \"KC9\" out and\n> >> into\n> >> > the bird (I work full duplux, so know that I was in) and someone took\n> >> over\n> >> > by stepping on me. Luckily, I got him anyway, but someone was high\n> power\n> >> > and more important than me. That's the way contesters work. But, I\n> don't\n> >> > want to plaster someone's call on the board. I just hope that the\n> >> person is\n> >> > a member and thinks about it. Getting into a peeing contest with\n> >> someone is\n> >> > not beneficial to anybody, including the hobby. It used to be that if\n> >> one\n> >> > said \"handheld\" or \"portable\" guys would give them a break, but that\n> >> > doesn't happen anymore. The birds are too crowded for that. There are\n> >> > several people in my ham clubs that want to try satellite operation\n> and\n> >> > myself and my friend Rick (WA9JBQ) loves to\n> >> > mentor them and teach them the proper way to operate. Not everyone\n> has\n> >> > this benefit. I don't know what the answer is. Last Spring one ham was\n> >> an\n> >> > extremely poor operator on the birds, but is now a better operator.\n> So,\n> >> > something works. But there is always the tendency to crank up the\n> power\n> >> to\n> >> > get the station that you want, if you have the power available. It is\n> >> like\n> >> > guys who I know that run 1,500 watts on FT8 to get what they want. I\n> >> guess\n> >> > it is going to happen and we have to live with that fact.\n> >> >\n> >> > As soon as I solve my equipment problem with my 847 and the weather\n> >> turns\n> >> > warmer, I will be back on the linear birds. I sure do miss FO-29. Brad\n> >> > KC9UQR\n> >> > _______________________________________________\n> >> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >> Opinions\n> >> > expressed\n> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views\n> of\n> >> > AMSAT-NA.\n> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program!\n> >> > Subscription settings:\n> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >> >\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >> Opinions expressed\n> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> >> AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n", "attachments": [] }