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        "address": "oz1my (a) privat.dk",
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    "sender_name": "Ib Christoffersen",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Time for a repetion of considerate operating practice on\tFM satellites",
    "date": "2010-09-03T14:48:45Z",
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    "content": "Hi European operators,\n\nIt looks like a repetion of the considerate operating practice \n\nat least here over Europe is in place.\n\n \n\nSorry it is long :-)\n\n \n\nHere it is with minor modifications since last year:\n\n \n\nThe first issue of this article is from 2000 - but with some modification it\nis still useful. I wrote this because the operating practice on the FM\nsatellites by a few operators is less than productive. Unfortunately it\nmakes it difficult to have real QSOs for the rest of us.\n\n \n\nThe FM satellites function just like a FM repeater. They can accommodate one\nstation at the time only. This makes it necessary for us to be very\nconsiderate, when we use these satellites. We have a number of satellites\nusing frequency modulation operating at the moment. That is a good thing\nsince they obviously attract a lot of new operators to the amateur satellite\nservice.\n\n \n\nWe have AO-51 and SO-50 both on all the time and AO-27 on for 6 to 7 minutes\nduring daytime South to North passes. New to us are HO-68 and SO-67.\n\n \n\nThe operating practice by a large number of us in Europe is appalling.\nPeople call on top of one another, whistling, and use repeater tones, do not\nallow a QSO to finish, call OHLA-OHLA, call CQ three to four times and\ninclude the locator and so on.\n\nSome seems to have the idea that it is their satellite and they therefor\nmonopolize whole passes using excessive power to \"drown\" low power stations.\n\n \n\nThe most popular satellite, AO-51, attracts quite a large crowd on every\npass. If you want to hear examples of the above, try to listen to this very\nuseful satellite during a weekend pass on 435.300 MHz plus minus Doppler.\n\n \n\nI do not pretend to have the perfect solution to these problems and I most\ncertainly do not want to be called a policeman on the satellites - but a few\ngentleman agreements would make life (an overstatement - it is just a hobby)\na lot easier for all of us. \n\n \n\nThe golden rule - do not transmit if you can not hear the downlink, is not\nknown by some stations. I have personally called a lot of stations, where my\ndownlink signal has been very good - but the station called did not answer -\nor asked for the call again several times - but gave a 59 report.\n\n \n\nIn my humble opinion we should adhere to some simple rules, which I will put\nforward here:  \n\n \n\nCalling \"CQ satellite\" 3 - 4 or more times and give the call and the full\nlocator at the same time is non-productive. It simply takes too long time.\nExperienced operators easily pick out new stations using a short CQ call. It\nis not really necessary to call CQ - just give your call. \n\n \n\nConsiderate operating practice allows a QSO to finish. Many operators on the\nFM satellites do not adhere to this. You very often find a station calling\non top of a running QSO, which makes the QSO take much longer time than\nnecessary. Often it is because the QSO takes a long time, which leads to the\nnext \"rule\".\n\n \n\nMake the QSO short when the satellite is busy. Valid QSO's just need to\nexchange calls and signal report. That is it. You do not need locator or\noperator name. If there is very little traffic OK go ahead and talk about\nanything - but not when the satellite is busy.\n\n \n\nHere in Europe we also have the habit of asking for the full lokator. I have\ntried to avoid that, but I have failed in this respect. For a terrestrial\nQSO or in a contest you need the full lokator - but not for a satellite QSO.\n\n\n \n\nA considerate operator will make one QSO per pass. If you are an experienced\noperator, who has made a lot of contacts before - limit your contacts to new\nstations.\n\n \n\nDo not use the FM satellites to elaborate on the weather situation in your\nlocal area, when the satellite is busy.\n\n \n\nGive priority to portable and mobile stations if they can hear the\nsatellite.\n\n \n\nGive DX stations (rare calls) a chance to get through. I have just witnessed\na JY4 station being \"drowned\" by local QSO's. JY was new to me even if I\nstarted satellite work in 1992.\n\n \n\nIf someone is really annoying - don't try to block their signal - try to\nsend them a polite e-mail especially if they are from your own country.\n\nAlso respect if people want to use their own native language. It is\nperfectly OK to talk Danish, German, Russian or any other language, as long\nas they do not carry on for many minutes.\n\n \n\nDo not talk very fast. It will not help. Remember we have different\nlanguages and use phonetics.\n\n \n\nLook at your satellite-tracking program in order to avoid calling stations\nthat are out of the footprint.\n\n \n\nIf you are a newcomer to satellites try to use them on a weekday morning.\n\n \n\n \n\nQRM from non-radio amateurs and non-satellite radio amateurs.\n\nOver the years I have heard taxi drivers in Spain, music from Arabic\ncountries, telephone conversations in Russian - Danish, Dutch, German,\nItalian, Spanish (continue the list) radio amateurs using the uplink\nfrequencies for local calls, packet transmissions from Siberia - over the FM\nsatellites.\n\nSome of these problems with other radio amateurs can be solved if you have\nthe calls. Just send the radio amateur a mail and ask them politely to stop\nthe transmission. I have had good experiences with radio amateurs in Denmark\nand other countries in Europe.\n\n \n\nApproaching your local authorities can perhaps solve a number of these\nproblems with misuse of the frequencies. When the offender is in a foreign\ncountry it is the only way to deal with this. Use your national radio\namateur organization - that is one of the reasons for their existence.\n\n \n\nFinishing remarks.\n\nThe FM satellites are a great asset to our hobby since they attract a lot of\nnew operators. A big number of these new operators move to the other\nsatellites and become potential supporters of AMSAT.\n\nDespite the above - the FM satellites are fun - but do not try to work\nthrough them on a day where you are in a bad mood :-) \n\n \n\nThe schedule for AO-51 is on: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php\n\n \n\nOZ1MY/Ib, member of the AO-51 Operations Group\n\n \n\nHave a nice weekend.\n\n",
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