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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/IWT6OKDKHRH2S34R7MCJMUIJJWTFNIS5/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "IWT6OKDKHRH2S34R7MCJMUIJJWTFNIS5", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/IQVSLTIQRF2IXI7NR5F7GLFTDZFOIEZU/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "oz1my (a) privat.dk", "mailman_id": "b2f56900318d4d1193159750f39aa3fe", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/b2f56900318d4d1193159750f39aa3fe/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Ib Christoffersen", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-", "date": "2011-03-31T21:34:23Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/P24GW2ZRW6EENF6Q5O422ISMDMKQEWH7/?format=api", "children": [ "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/FULSYDJL4JJXKVEN2JEPKOUB6DA3M36O/?format=api" ], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Hi Pete and the -bb,\nI can recognize your description about some of the passes - not all - here \nover Europe.\nK5OE also tells the story about his operating here some years ago :-)\n\nI also support Drews action - but some may say that I am biased since I \nam a member of the Operating Committee for AO-51.\n\nHowever the only/best way to improve things is to make direct contact with \nthe offenders of good operating practice.\nMost often we can find their e-mail addresses on qrz.com.\nI have done that many times - most often with a good result.\n\nI have a text \"Considerate Operating Practice..\" in several languages which \nI can send to those of you who want to try yourself.\n\n73 OZ1MY/Ib\n \n\n-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----\nFra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne\naf P.H.\nSendt: 31. marts 2011 11:30\nTil: [email protected]\nEmne: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-\n\n>>> Several others have written in support, and\n>>> I only wish more would have done so publicly.\n\nI wasn't going to reply to this thread when it started because I feel\nquite strongly about the subject and didn't want to say something I\nwould later regret. However as I feel I need to show my support for\nDrew's decision, here goes.\n\nFirst of all I think Drew was right to do what he did, over here in\nEurope things are pretty much the same, in fact I have heard worse\nthan the recording posted here earlier in the week. I have experienced\nthe same frustration that I imagine Drew did when he had others\ndeliberately stomp all over him, it's not nice, especially when it's\nthe same stations day in and day out.\n\nWhile I dont always agree with Drew's attitude to people here on -bb,\non this occasion I do support him in what he did - and appreciate both\nhis efforts in looking after the sat and those of the other command\nstations (and of course others behind the scenes who dont always get a\nmention)\n\nThere has been a lot of talk about what can't be done to rectify the\nsituation.. we need to have a more positive approach to this and look\nat what can be done.\n\nOur license states that it is an offence to cause interference - If it\nis intentional or not, it is interference - some people have compared\nit to a HF pileup, yes there is that side to it, but that doesn't mean\nwe cant do something about those regular users who continually make a\nnuisance of themselves by stomping all over other stations, be it\ndeliberate or not - it is interference. If you cant make a contact on\nthe sat without regularly causing interference, then it's either time\nto look at asking for help with your station setup and operating\npractices or consider another aspect of the hobby.\n\nThe ham radio governing bodies (ARRL, RSGB etc) are perhaps in a\nbetter position to offer assistance to contact those who don't hang\nout on here or have contact details on QRZ.com etc.\n\nFor those people who choose to ignore the advise and continue to cause\ninterference by stomping all over users then perhaps if a few\ncomplaints were lodged with the licensing authority it may help.\n\nI know it won't cure the problem totally but wouldn't it help? - those\nwho are that way inclined will think twice before making a total\nnuisance of themselves on the air, and those that choose to ignore the\nthought of having their license revoked may well just get a letter\nforwarded to them by their national Amsat organisation via the ARRL or\nRSGB etc, or repeat offenders from the licensing authority.\n\nTo reiterate, i'm not talking about the new operators, we were all new\nonce. I'm talking about the regular offenders who are just plain rude\nand cant wait their turn, or greedy and think it is their right to\nhave X amount of contacts per pass no matter how much interference\nthey cause.\n\nJust some suggestions, it may take a little time and effort but also\nit may well pay off in the long run.\n\nHere in Europe there are several stations who pass after pass just\nstomp all over other users and make AO-51 in particular not a nice\nplace to be.\n\nI would certainly never consider using AO-51 as a satellite to do a\ndemo on to beginners when these guys are around.\n\nHowever, the last few days on AO-51 have been a pleasure to work since\nthe switch and if it continues like this (doubtful) then a demo on\nAO-51 would most definitley be a possibility.\n\nRemember, the use of AO-51 is a privilege, not a right. Treat it, and\nit's users with the respect it/they deserve.\n\nOk, rant over.\n\nKeep up the good work Drew, Mark, Gould and all the team at Amsat-NA\n\n73\n\nPete\n2i0VAX\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n", "attachments": [] }