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    "sender_name": "Wouter Weggelaar",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Usage - 2012",
    "date": "2012-08-28T18:49:52Z",
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    "content": "Hi List,\n\nIf I may add to the conversation about linear birds, that Delfi-C3 (an Cube\n\nOn Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Bill Ress <[email protected]> wrote:\n> Nicely put John and thanks for putting the time into composing and posting\n> it.\n>\n> Regards...Bill - N6GHz\n>\n>\n> On 8/28/2012 10:10 AM, John Papay wrote:\n>>\n>> The Funcube Dongle postings veered off into a\n>> discussion of the current state of affairs with\n>> the satellites that are still working. After reading\n>> about how the activity on the linear birds was down, I\n>> had to wonder a bit. It has not been my experience.\n>>\n>> I really expected the activity on the FM birds to diminish when AO-51\n>> died. We only get 7 minutes of AO-27 and that doesn't make\n>> up for the much longer passes on AO-51. SO-50 has never been\n>> off the air since I started in 2006 but it is the most difficult\n>> to hear throughout the pass. For that reason, activity on SO-50\n>> was fairly low. If you can't hear it, you can't work it. But\n>> to my surprise, SO-50 activity dramatically increased when AO-51\n>> went silent. Those who work the FM birds became determined to\n>> work through this satellite despite the difficulties in hearing it.\n>> Of course, if you are not full duplex, you don't know when you are\n>> hearing the bird and that sometimes results in those who call but\n>> cannot hear the responses. They might assume that there is no activity\n>> on the bird when in fact there are many stations trying to make qso's.\n>>\n>> I started using the ssb birds in late November 2007. There wasn't much\n>> activity on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52 at that time. But over the last two\n>> years, activity on the linear birds has steadily increased. Much of the\n>> increase can be attributed to the newer people who started on the FM birds\n>> and quickly decided to get involved with the linear birds. I think the\n>> availability of satellite capable radios has really helped. If you have\n>> a TS2000 you can be on a linear bird without much effort. They are easier\n>> to hear than an FM bird. Some are using a pair of radios to achieve full\n>> duplex with great success. And I highly recommend SatPC32 which I have\n>> used\n>> now since 2006. It runs 24x7 on a Vista Quad machine and doesn't crash.\n>> The\n>> recordings on my website were made possible using the auto multi-satellite\n>> tracking feature of this program. Recordings are made without any outside\n>> intervention.\n>>\n>> One of the things that powers DX on the HF bands are dxpeditions. Groups\n>> spend large amounts of money to travel to destinations all over the world\n>> so that others can put that country in the worked/confirmed column. With\n>> satellites today it's the VUCC award that drives the activity. When\n>> someone\n>> shows up from a rare grid, the birds are sometimes overwhelmed. ND9M has\n>> worked from hundreds of USA grids and has also worked from his ship on the\n>> linear birds. UT1FG/mm has been very active over the past three\n>> years and has created pileups on the ssb birds not unlike those on HF. To\n>> say the activity is down on the linear birds in recent years is simply\n>> incorrect. And more hams are operating satellites away from home than ever\n>> before. You work with what you have and make the best of it, fm or linear.\n>>\n>> The future of AMSAT and the satellite phase of our hobby is all about the\n>> new people. When you hear someone new on the bird and it's a noisy signal\n>> with an incomplete callsign, maybe without phonetics, call that station.\n>> Giving out that first contact with a newbie far outweighs 100 contacts\n>> with\n>> those that you have worked many times before. Sometimes the effort doesn't\n>> result in a qso, but maybe there is a possibility to follow up with an\n>> email or postcard with an offer of help. Just remember we all started out\n>> at some point with no experience. Most everyone can remember their first\n>> contact and how important it was in terms of encouraging future operating.\n>>\n>> So if you're reading the AMSAT-bb and are discouraged by the fact that\n>> there\n>> are no High Earth Orbit Satellites, don't be. Times change, technology\n>> changes but we continue by using what we have to the max and working\n>> towards\n>> improving our situation where we can. AMSAT works very hard to explore\n>> every possibility for building and launching new satellites. It's a\n>> tremendous\n>> effort that most of us don't realize is happening day after day. We all\n>> need to support this effort. FOX I and II will be here before we know it.\n>> These birds should give us some room for more qso's and new operators.\n>>\n>> In the meantime, AO-7 continues to work at an altitude of 1450KM. FO-29 is\n>> at 1200 or 1300 KM some of the time. These birds provide an opportunity to\n>> work DX if you can see down to the horizon. If you can't, you can always\n>> go to a location that is better and use your FT817 with an Arrow antenna\n>> and work down to the horizon. There is nothing wrong with using an Arrow\n>> or ELK antenna to work DX. WD9EWK has proven that point time after time.\n>>\n>> A good ham radio operator is one that looks at a problem as a challenge\n>> rather than a show stopper. Ham radio ingenuity over the years has been\n>> amazing. So if you are having trouble and are frustrated, develop an\n>> action plan to move forward. The resources available to us today are\n>> unprecedented. And there are mentors out there that are willing to help.\n>> Above all, stay positive and have some fun!\n>>\n>> 73,\n>> John K8YSE\n>>\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>>\n>\n> --\n> Regards...Bill Ress\n> High Sierra Microwave\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n",
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