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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/JL6JFKTMGRK4GWZ6W22JR4THZ4KUPGUD/",
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    "subject": "[amsat-bb]  Fw:  Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux",
    "date": "2008-03-18T02:16:50Z",
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    "content": "\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Bruce Robertson\" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>\nCc: \"AMSAT-BB\" <[email protected]>\nSent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:25 PM\nSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux\n\n\n> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> Bruce,\n>>\n>>  Do you have Gnome Predict installed also? I have found the same problem \n>> after\n>>  installing Gpredict, but it will do it still even after uninstalling \n>> gpredict.\n>>\n>>  James W8ISS\n>\n> I just checked my Ubuntu 7.10 and, no, I did not have the gpredict\n> package installed. In a private letter to KD2BD, I noted two other\n> things: first, if I uninstalled the package and built predict from\n> source  the result was a properly-functioning copy of predict;\n> secondly, the 'broken' copies could be fixed by putting a predict.tle\n> and predict.db file from a working copy in the ~/.predict directory.\n> It must be something about the routines that create those files for\n> the first time in ~/.predict; however, permissions are an obvious\n> problem because the predict.qth file makes it just fine.\n>\n> 73, Bruce\n> VE9QRP\n>\n>>\n>>  ---------- Original Message -----------\n>>  From: \"Bruce Robertson\" <[email protected]>\n>>  To: \"John Heaton\" <[email protected]>\n>>  Cc: AMSAT-BB <[email protected]>\n>>  Sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0300\n>>  Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux\n>>\n>>  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:37 AM, John Heaton <[email protected]>\n>>  > wrote:\n>>  > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\n>>  > >  Hash: SHA1\n>>  > >\n>>  > >\n>>  > >  On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:50, Bruce Robertson wrote:\n>>  > >  > Your Predict is possibly dying for a lack of a TLE file. Point to \n>> one\n>>  > >  > with the -t command-line parameter. Ensure also that a qth file \n>> is\n>>  > >  > being created in ~/.predict and that you as user can read it \n>> with,\n>>  > >  > e.g. 'cat'. I believe predict is supposed to find a tle file in \n>> that\n>>  > >  > same directory, but I think I've had troubles with that option.\n>>  > >\n>>  > >  Predict will run without a TLE file - you won't see any predictions\n>>  >\n>>  > I just double-checked this, and I still find that if there is no tle\n>>  > file and none pointed to with a -t switch, it will die as Kent\n>>  > described below. Namely, it will send you to the new user screen and\n>>  > then exit when the info is entered. (Unfortunately, it exits with the\n>>  > terminal in a funny state.) In my experience, it does this on a fresh\n>>  > install with apt-get on Ubuntu, or with a build install (using root).\n>>  > This is a frustrating loop for the user, since he or she can\n>>  > reasonably expect that the data is entered after the first attempt,\n>>  > and furthermore the qth file can be found in the ~/.predict\n>>  >\n>>  > I've taken a screenshot and posted it at\n>>  > http://heml.mta.ca/Amsat/predict-fail.png\n>>  >\n>>  > If, however, you use -t to point it to a tle file it can't parse, it\n>>  > will do as you, John, describe above. More specifically, you can\n>>  > select the [P] option from the main menu, but this results in a blank\n>>  > list of satellites from which to choose.\n>>  >\n>>  > For instance, the following command will produce this effect:\n>>  > brucerob@heml:~$ touch foo\n>>  > brucerob@heml:~$ predict -t foo\n>>  >\n>>  > I get the exact same effect if I use the documented nasa tle files.\n>>  > For example:\n>>  >\n>>  > brucerob@heml:~$ wget \n>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all\n>>  > brucerob@heml:~$ predict -t nasa.all\n>>  >\n>>  > Fails the same as my 'foo' file above. However if I edit out the\n>>  > comments in the file describing the file format so that the first\n>>  > line begins with 'AO-07', predict operates normally.\n>>  >\n>>  > >  > Finally, make sure that your tle file does not have any comments \n>> at\n>>  > >  > its top before the actual elements. For instance, the commonly \n>> used\n>>  > >  > nasa.tle files have a set of comments describing the tle format.\n>>  > >  > Predict dies on these.\n>>  > >\n>>  > >  Predict ignores data in the TLE file before the TLE data, so if you\n>>  > >  get your TLE as a meil message you don't need to remove the headers\n>>  >\n>>  > Perhaps predict is written to ignore the headers of a mail message,\n>>  > but not the comments that appear in the nasa file?\n>>  >\n>>  > I hope it is understood that I'm documenting this because I like\n>>  > predict and consider it a wonderful arrow in AMSAT's quiver. Indeed,\n>>  > since it might be a potential AMSAT'er's first encounter with pass\n>>  > prediction -- given that it is part of the debian world -- I think we\n>>  > should ensure that it is very easy to use. Furthermore it\n>>  > cross-compiles like a dream: as I've said elsewhere it works\n>>  > identically on a Nokia N800; and another member of this list got it\n>>  > to run on the gumstix platform.\n>>  >\n>>  > 73, Bruce\n>>  > VE9QRP\n>>  >\n>>  > >\n>>  > >  >\n>>  > >  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Kent R. Frazier \n>> <[email protected]>\n>>  > >  > wrote:\n>>  > >  >> I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my\n>>  > >  >> notebook. When I\n>>  > >  >>  start Predict I get the \"new user\" screen where I enter the \n>> required\n>>  > >  >>  information. After pressing the \"enter\" key on the last entry I\n>>  > >  >> get a\n>>  > >  >>  command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.\n>>  > >  >>\n>>  > >  >>  Is anyone using this software that could offer some \n>> suggestions?\n>>  > >  >> Or maybe\n>>  > >  >>  another alternative to run under Linux?\n>>  > >\n>>\n>> > _______________________________________________\n>>  > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the \n>> author.\n>>  > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n>> program!\n>>  > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>  ------- End of Original Message -------\n>>\n>>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n\n",
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