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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/JR75AGRLTMDYQHJ3WN2NYAVANRZ4JCYU/?format=api",
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        "address": "nate (a) natetech.com",
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    "sender_name": "Nate Duehr",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -\tOperating\tSurvey",
    "date": "2008-07-23T06:05:15Z",
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    "content": "\nOn Jul 21, 2008, at 7:45 PM, James French wrote:\n\n> James W8ISS - a voting member that has issues with the current crop of\n> APPLIANCE OPERATORS on the amateur bands!!!\n\n\nI reply locally to this sentiment the same way I'll reply here James.\n\n\"When and where is your next class, and is it suited to people with  \nzero technical knowledge?  I'll send the announcement to the 400  \nmembers of my repeater club, you'll probably have a big crowd and even  \nbigger for the second session, if you have any idea what you're doing  \nas an instructor.\"\n\nBetter yet... \"Why should anyone with technical knowledge feel or act  \nsuperior to someone who doesn't have it?  Shouldn't you be helping  \nthem learn?  Didn't you have an Elmer or some other way to learn this  \nknowledge?\"\n\nOr perhaps the meanest one used to plonk someone whining about this  \nlocally this week, \"Did you pop out of your momma knowing CW and how  \nto read a Smith Chart?\"\n\nThis \"I hate non-techies\" attitude many older \"technical\" hams seem to  \nhave, gets old.  Do you think it's helping the hobby any?  Think about  \nit.\n\nDo something about it if it distresses you so much.  Teach.  Now.  Not  \n\"someday\" when you have time.  Make videos.  Whatever... just do it  \nand quit complaining.\n\nAs someone else pointed out, much of the current growth in ham radio  \nis in 50-something males who now have time and money and can buy rigs  \nand get on the air.  Your job, if you want the hobby to be \"more  \ntechnical\" than them just buying rigs and using them... is to a) give  \nthem a reason why they should learn something they don't need -- which  \nthey'll also figure out on their own, given time... and b) a forum in  \nwhich to learn... that's as convenient and fun for them as turning on  \nthat $1000 rig and talking to people.\n\nNeither one is easy.  Whining about it is easy, though.\n\nGot a good reason a guy with $2000 burning a hole in his pocket needs  \nto learn about superheterodyne receivers, James?  I don't.  He can buy  \none with all the fancy features and use it today without needing to  \nknow anything about how it works.\n\nJust because you like to learn (as do I -- there's a reason I took  \nmonths to read the ARRL Antenna Manual from cover to cover), doesn't  \nmean the new folks do.  What motivated you?  Would it work on them?\n\nGuilt trips and bad attitudes from old-timers will certainly be  \nignored... get used to it.  Find another (more positive) way.\n\n--\nNate Duehr, WY0X\[email protected]\n\n\n\n",
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