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    "sender_name": "GEO Badger",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Elections HEO QO-100' Linear NB + Digital WB",
    "date": "2020-07-21T20:43:17Z",
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    "content": "Get your IFM Nano Thruster, starting at $49K. It is cool though.\nI like that they are thinking outside the box.---  \n Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side  \n73 de W3AB/GEO     \n\n http://www.w3ab.org\n\nYou can say \"over\", you can say \"out\", you just can't say \"over and out\". \n\n    On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 01:37:59 PM PDT, Dave Hartzell via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:  \n \n Lots of interesting stuff going on with electric propulsion....  it may be\nslow, but it's a cost effective way to raise an orbit.\n\nhttps://www.enpulsion.com/technology/\n\nOnline ordering available!\n\nDave\nad0qe\n\n\nOn Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:25 AM Jean Marc Momple via AMSAT-BB <\[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Dan,\n>\n> Agree that the context are different but the only way to achieve same is\n> to work hard on it and without begging (as it seems that we do no have the\n> money for either HEO or GEO) no way we may succeed.\n>\n> That said, there are some possibilities and if we try hard enough we may\n> succeed, the real issues are that the community as a whole does really work\n> hard enough and we are probably not passionate enough to put the birds up\n> there? Yes difficult but not impossible, may be US laws is a deterrent but\n> we are global and other jurisdiction may be used.\n>\n> QO-100 has made us to think globally or at least half of it, this is we\n> way forward for both financing and putting birds up there. It we direct our\n> effort in that direction (a global vision) we have more chances to succeed.\n> So rethinking the HAM satellite strategy globally instead of thinking\n> regionally may work out.\n>\n> Just my 1 cent input.\n>\n> 73\n>\n>\n> Jean Marc (3B8DU)\n>\n>\n> > On Jul 21, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Daniel Schultz via AMSAT-BB <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > Yes, we once had a deal with Intelsat until it fell through. More\n> recently we\n> > had a deal with the US Air Force and one of its contractors, until that\n> also\n> > fell through. The reason we don't have a western hemisphere transponder\n> in GEO\n> > is not because the \"old guard\" wants to shoot it down, but because these\n> types\n> > of deals are very difficult to pull off in a market driven economy such\n> as the\n> > US satellite industry.\n> >\n> > QO-100 was hosted on a satellite built for a royal government which is\n> not\n> > responsible to stockholders, a government in which an amateur radio\n> operator\n> > held a high position of influence. A US based company would have to\n> answer to\n> > Wall Street analysts to explain why they are giving away money that\n> could have\n> > been paid out in stock dividends.\n> >\n> > Changing the BOD membership will not alter any of these facts. It is not\n> > because we haven't asked the powers that be, and not because we are\n> reluctant\n> > to \"jump ahead of the project and grab what is needed\". Space is Hard,\n> and all\n> > the wishful thinking in the world is not going to change that.\n> >\n> > 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV\n> >\n> >> I am intrigued about QO-100 and have monitored it here in Florida by\n> >> remote WEB SDR access. I have not been active in the years since AO-40\n> >> failed and have been eager to see some HEO operations like I enjoyed\n> >> from AO-10 and AO-13. Listening to QO-100 has rekindled that interest.\n> >>\n> >> Last month on AMSAT-BB I posed the question about getting a GEO ride\n> >> share with a commercial satellite, something that was considered 12\n> >> years ago with Intelsat. Having a QO-100 type transponder here CONUS\n> >> would grow the hobby and get folks like me active again (and\n> >> contributing sums as I did for AO-40). However, the \"old guard\" shot\n> >> my idea down for the usual reasons. (See my threads last month).\n> >>\n> >> Having a QO-100 type transponder with a hybrid of narrow band linear\n> >> side and wide band digital side would open up a lot of opportunities\n> >> for operations, public service and experimentation.?? I hope the new\n> >> \"slate\" of BOD will consider this type of project as a priority.\n> >>\n> >> Personally, I think GOLF has not achieved results fast enough to\n> >> getting us a larger footprint. I am not advocating scrapping of that\n> >> effort, but sometimes you have to jump ahead of the project and grab\n> >> what is needed.\n> >>\n> >> 73 Joe\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n_______________________________________________\nSent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\nto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\nare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\nSubscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n  \n",
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