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    "sender_name": "James McIrvin",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats",
    "date": "2019-02-07T12:40:08Z",
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    "content": "Good morning all,\nOne thing that I have noticed with trying to tune in a qso or even tune\nmyself so that I can even find myself on the downlink is not easy some\ndays.  If I use the rit then sometimes I loose the other party on there or\nthey can not tune up to me very well.  One thing that I have noticed\nthinking about this if I turn the rit on and use that then turn the RIT off\nand then try to tune the xmit freq I see that the XIT is also changed to\nthe same amount as the RIT control.\nSo having found this and trying to work with SatPC32 trying to tune using\nthe cat control section I am not having very good luck somedays getting\nthings tuned up.  I don't try to do these at the same time, I work with one\nor the other, just have not found a good happy medium yet for tuning in the\ndifferent ones.\nNow I am thinking that I might want to reset all back to square one with\nthe radio again and see what happens with the RIT and XIT if they track\ntogether or not if I do a full reset of the radio.\nThe rig is the TS2000X, it took sometime getting it to work with Satpc32\nand now I know where I made the mistake on the basic setup so that I can\nget things to a working point with the software for tracking again.  Just\nseeing that the RIT control and the XIT track together even thou they are\nnot on together that I know of when I try to work things.\nThis I only found this week.  So any thoughts on this?\n\nThank you.\n\nJim\n\nOn Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 11:36 PM Mike Sprenger <[email protected]>\nwrote:\n\n> Great job\n>\n> Im going to contradict myself.  Don’t use the RIT...(then maybe use the\n> RIT)\n>\n> Hopefully your RIT is off when you adjust your uplink in Satpc32 to line\n> up and match the pitch of your voice.\n>\n> If I find that I have tuned to someone calling CQ or in QSO - when i call\n> them ——> if they move, yet I can understand, I will accept the pitch\n> difference and NOT touch the main tuning dial for that round of the QSO so\n> things stay constant for the other station\n>\n> If we go another QSO round and things are still about the same amount of\n> frequency offset, I’ll just compensate slightly with my RIT.\n>\n> If you’re within 300hz I’d say you’re doing well, and touching up with RIT\n> is well within reason.\n>\n> Like drew suggests- carry on.\n>\n> Thanks,\n> Mike\n>\n> Sent from my iPhone\n>\n> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >\n> > So just diddle the RIT a little and carry on?\n> >\n> > 73, Drew KO4MA\n> >\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Stephen E.\n> Belter\n> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 1:43 PM\n> > To: [email protected]\n> > Cc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>; Paul Stoetzer <[email protected]>\n> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Operating SSB sats\n> >\n> > Just my guess:  If you’re tuning so that you sound good to yourself, you\n> may sound a little high (or low) to someone else.  Also, since most people\n> you’re operating don’t know what you sound like in person (James Earle\n> Jones or Pee Wee Hermon).\n> >\n> > You can check your tuning by sending a tone and zero-bearing with the\n> received tone.\n> >\n> > Or experiment with adjusting your received signal so that you’re a\n> little low (or high) with what sounds best to you.  Then see if you’re\n> still chasing each other up (or down) the band.\n> >\n> > 73, Steve N9IP\n> > --\n> > Steve Belter, [email protected]\n> >\n> >\n> >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:31 PM, \"[email protected]\" <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n> >>\n> >> That is exactly right, with the fully computer controlled setup I can\n> move the downlink (RX) up and down the pass band looking for callers and\n> not have to touch the TX frequency as it is managed by the software and can\n> hear my own voice with a steady tone quite well.\n> >> - Umesh\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>   On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 9:44:56 AM PST, Paul Stoetzer <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >>\n> >> Umesh,\n> >> If you can tune around and always hear your own downlink on the correct\n> frequency, then you are doing everything right.\n> >> 73,\n> >> Paul, N8HM\n> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:42 PM [email protected] <\n> [email protected]> wrote:\n> >>\n> >> Good Morning All,\n> >> I'd like to understand something that seems to be happening with SSB\n> birds.\n> >>\n> >> I realize that they are two kinds of operators - one that has a\n> >> computer controlled station and one that tunes manually, and I respect\n> >> both types.  The following observation is about two computer\n> >> controlled stations working via a SSB satellite -\n> >>\n> >> (a) My station is computer controlled (SatPC32 or HRD) and can hear\n> myself on the downlink throughout the pass.  I can also go up or down the\n> pass band and still hear myself without needing to retune the uplink.   It\n> is pretty rock solid, almost like HF operation.\n> >>\n> >> (b) Sometimes I hear a station calling CQ and it remains on the same\n> frequency during successive CQs, so I'm guessing their station is also\n> computer controlled.  I can tune in and stay on their calling frequency.\n> >>\n> >> (c) However, when I can respond, it seems they have to tune their\n> downlink a bit to hear me well.  So when they come back to my response,\n> they are a bit off-frequency (about 300Hz) and sound like Mickey Mouse,\n> until I retune the downlink to hear them well again.  This keeps happening\n> throughout the QSO.\n> >>\n> >> (d) This \"drifting\" happens only with some stations calling CQ and not\n> everyone.\n> >>\n> >> Considering both stations are computer controlled at each end, I'm\n> trying to understand if I'm doing anything wrong/incorrect.  Learning to\n> operate SSB sats has been humbling as well as exciting, I'd appreciate any\n> pointers for this situation. Thanks in advance.\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> 73!\n> >> Umesh\n> >> k6vug\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect\n> the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect\n> the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official\n> views of AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n> Opinions expressed\n> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> program!\n> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n> expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n> AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n",
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