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    "sender_name": "Bob- W7LRD",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Usage - 2012",
    "date": "2012-08-28T18:24:50Z",
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    "content": "to dove-tail on John's post...this is not a \"plug and play\" hobby. We must remember, \"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it\". Satellite op's are a very small percentage of a small hobby. I recall when AO-40 finally became available, we became S band experts almost overnight. Short of HEO we can \"tweek\" our efforts by maybe having a Suitsat type sat thrown out the door every time there's a EVA, maybe one with L/S transponder, how about a MEO like RS-15. Then there's on board experimental propulsion for these little birds. We can go on and on you know the drill...Yes we can and do make it \"easy\" to get started with satellites, however once the bug bites, at least for this old curmudgeon I believe, \"the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer\". It is essential we support all efforts of AMSAT not just that little niche we \"approve\" of. Still rebuilding antenna systems....... \nWAS VUCC WAC \n73 Bob W7LRD \n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"John Papay\" <[email protected]> \nTo: [email protected] \nSent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:10:49 AM \nSubject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Usage - 2012 \n\nThe Funcube Dongle postings veered off into a \ndiscussion of the current state of affairs with \nthe satellites that are still working. After reading \nabout how the activity on the linear birds was down, I \nhad to wonder a bit. It has not been my experience. \n\nI really expected the activity on the FM birds to diminish when AO-51 \ndied. We only get 7 minutes of AO-27 and that doesn't make \nup for the much longer passes on AO-51. SO-50 has never been \noff the air since I started in 2006 but it is the most difficult \nto hear throughout the pass. For that reason, activity on SO-50 \nwas fairly low. If you can't hear it, you can't work it. But \nto my surprise, SO-50 activity dramatically increased when AO-51 \nwent silent. Those who work the FM birds became determined to \nwork through this satellite despite the difficulties in hearing it. \nOf course, if you are not full duplex, you don't know when you are \nhearing the bird and that sometimes results in those who call but \ncannot hear the responses. They might assume that there is no activity \non the bird when in fact there are many stations trying to make qso's. \n\nI started using the ssb birds in late November 2007. There wasn't much \nactivity on AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52 at that time. But over the last two \nyears, activity on the linear birds has steadily increased. Much of the \nincrease can be attributed to the newer people who started on the FM birds \nand quickly decided to get involved with the linear birds. I think the \navailability of satellite capable radios has really helped. If you have \na TS2000 you can be on a linear bird without much effort. They are easier \nto hear than an FM bird. Some are using a pair of radios to achieve full \nduplex with great success. And I highly recommend SatPC32 which I have used \nnow since 2006. It runs 24x7 on a Vista Quad machine and doesn't crash. The \nrecordings on my website were made possible using the auto multi-satellite \ntracking feature of this program. Recordings are made without any outside \nintervention. \n\nOne of the things that powers DX on the HF bands are dxpeditions. Groups \nspend large amounts of money to travel to destinations all over the world \nso that others can put that country in the worked/confirmed column. With \nsatellites today it's the VUCC award that drives the activity. When someone \nshows up from a rare grid, the birds are sometimes overwhelmed. ND9M has \nworked from hundreds of USA grids and has also worked from his ship on the \nlinear birds. UT1FG/mm has been very active over the past three \nyears and has created pileups on the ssb birds not unlike those on HF. To \nsay the activity is down on the linear birds in recent years is simply \nincorrect. And more hams are operating satellites away from home than ever \nbefore. You work with what you have and make the best of it, fm or linear. \n\nThe future of AMSAT and the satellite phase of our hobby is all about the \nnew people. When you hear someone new on the bird and it's a noisy signal \nwith an incomplete callsign, maybe without phonetics, call that station. \nGiving out that first contact with a newbie far outweighs 100 contacts with \nthose that you have worked many times before. Sometimes the effort doesn't \nresult in a qso, but maybe there is a possibility to follow up with an \nemail or postcard with an offer of help. Just remember we all started out \nat some point with no experience. Most everyone can remember their first \ncontact and how important it was in terms of encouraging future operating. \n\nSo if you're reading the AMSAT-bb and are discouraged by the fact that there \nare no High Earth Orbit Satellites, don't be. Times change, technology \nchanges but we continue by using what we have to the max and working towards \nimproving our situation where we can. AMSAT works very hard to explore \nevery possibility for building and launching new satellites. It's a tremendous \neffort that most of us don't realize is happening day after day. We all \nneed to support this effort. FOX I and II will be here before we know it. \nThese birds should give us some room for more qso's and new operators. \n\nIn the meantime, AO-7 continues to work at an altitude of 1450KM. FO-29 is \nat 1200 or 1300 KM some of the time. These birds provide an opportunity to \nwork DX if you can see down to the horizon. If you can't, you can always \ngo to a location that is better and use your FT817 with an Arrow antenna \nand work down to the horizon. There is nothing wrong with using an Arrow \nor ELK antenna to work DX. WD9EWK has proven that point time after time. \n\nA good ham radio operator is one that looks at a problem as a challenge \nrather than a show stopper. Ham radio ingenuity over the years has been \namazing. So if you are having trouble and are frustrated, develop an \naction plan to move forward. The resources available to us today are \nunprecedented. And there are mentors out there that are willing to help. \nAbove all, stay positive and have some fun! \n\n73, \nJohn K8YSE \n\n_______________________________________________ \nSent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. \nNot an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! \nSubscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb \n",
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