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    "sender_name": "Don KB2YSI",
    "subject": "Re: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92",
    "date": "2018-06-08T13:10:56Z",
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    "content": "What I have done is to hook the common port to the antenna that I want and\nthen the HT up to the side of the duplexer that I want to use.  I found it\neasier to use the VHF side of the Arrow for this setup.\n\n73, Don KB2YSI\n\nOn Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 08:37 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do have other handhelds. Is there a\n> way to connect a splitter on my Elk antenna so that I can connect two\n> handhelds? Will that degrade my signal in and/or out? Do I need to filter\n> the signals to split off the VHF and UHF signals? Right now I just try to\n> lay one handheld with its own HT antenna somewhere in case it is able to\n> receive a signal or I try to get someone to hold it for me. Most of the\n> times i’m by myself.\n>\n> —\n> Hugo Dominguez, Jr.\n>\n> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:57, Don KB2YSI <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> My FM operating is has been dual HTs and portable, I.E. not tripod, no\n> table, just me and what I can hold. I am working on a SSB setup but only\n> tried it a few times thus far, but that includes a backpack.\n>\n> Yes, holding 2 radios and an antenna is difficult at best, and risky for\n> the equipment. That is why I took the suggestion to use a piece of wood in\n> the end of my Arrow to mount the RX radio to. This was a major improvement\n> in the setup. Pictures and credit for the ideas are available at\n> hamqth.com/KB2YSI\n>\n> SO-50 has been my go to satellite and 5w has worked very well for me.\n> AO-85 is my unicorn, sometimes I have no issues getting in, others nothing\n> I do seems to work. My money is on operater error. Hihi. AO-91 & AO-92 are\n> crazy easy to use once I had a full duplex (using 2 radios and a duplexer\n> as a filter) setup.\n>\n> I am still new, have not been operating a year yet, but am willing to talk\n> offline if anyone is interested. I may have learned a lot the hard way, but\n> it has been incredibly fun time!\n>\n>\n>\n> 73, Don KB2YSI\n>\n> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 14:03 Jean Marc Momple <[email protected]>\n> wrote:\n>\n>> Hugo,\n>>\n>> Actually the Baofengs UR-5R that Francois is using are transmitting with\n>> only 2 watts on 70cm. Works very well. Sorry for having stated 4W (Vhf\n>> power)\n>>\n>> I will send you separately a small presentation I did for the local OM’s\n>> which trigger Francois venture on the birds.\n>>\n>> 73\n>>\n>>  Jean Marc\n>>\n>> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>> >\n>> > Thanks for the feedback. I’ll keep trying. Is the Baofang being used\n>> the 5 watt or 8 watt version? Right now it is hard holding two radios and\n>> the antenna. Maybe I can strap it to my antenna and use it for listening\n>> for myself. I should also look at mounting my antenna to an old camera\n>> tripod to free my hand\n>> >\n>> > —\n>> > Hugo Dominguez, Jr.\n>> >\n>> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:30, Jean Marc Momple <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>> >>\n>> >> Hugo,\n>> >>\n>> >> Just to share experience.\n>> >>\n>> >> 3B8GZ (not on the BB, but in copy) is working very well AO-91 and\n>> AO92, crystal clear above 10 deg. ele. with 2 Baofengs and a home brew\n>> Arrow type of antenna while on the beach this side of the globe. He made\n>> QSO’s with South Africa, Madagascar and locals with less than 4W.\n>> >>\n>> >> SO-50 is a little more tricky as a 74Hz CTCSS required to trigger the\n>> repeater, then you need to switch CTCSS to 67Hz to QSO. Also it need a few\n>> more W for clear QSO.\n>> >>\n>> >> AO-85 is quite hard-hearing and depending on its path you need between\n>> 15 and 50 W with a 10-15 ele yagi to go through reasonably.\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >> Hope this help.\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >> 73\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU)\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>\n>> >>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Hugo Dominguez, Jr. <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>> >>>\n>> >>> Someone mentioned to me that AO-91 was made to be worked by\n>> handhelds. They also mentioned that AO-85 actually has a damaged receive\n>> antenna and that you need more power. Is that correct? Is 5 watts\n>> sufficient for AO-92, AO-85 and SO-50?\n>> >>>\n>> >>> —\n>> >>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr.\n>> >>>\n>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:08, Daniel Wight <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> >>>>\n>> >>>> As Gabe pointed out, I may have this backwards as I started out on\n>> SO-50 (V/U) & then applied my original techniques to the Fox (U/V) birds in\n>> error (i.e. your initial settings are probably correct). I need to do some\n>> more research before I understand this fully, but it looks like I've been\n>> using the wrong uplink frequencies on my IC-W32A. My apologies for the\n>> mistake. Looks like I'll be reprogramming my radio soon....\n>> >>>>\n>> >>>> 73,\n>> >>>>\n>> >>>> Daniel, KD7LEE\n>> >>>>\n>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 21:50 Hugo Dominguez, Jr. <[email protected]>\n>> wrote:\n>> >>>>> Thanks. All the web pages I read said to perform doppler shift by\n>> starting 10 kHz below and work your way up. Even this amsat website has\n>> instructions to do it how I am doing it:\n>> https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/26/ao-92-open-for-amateur-radio-use/\n>> >>>>>\n>> >>>>> I also just noticed that there is a schedule for the L-band for\n>> uplink which i’m interpreting that UHF won’t work when the bird is setup\n>> for the L-band for uplink. Maybe I was trying to make contact when it was\n>> on the L band.\n>> >>>>>\n>> >>>>> —\n>> >>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr.\n>> >>>>>\n>> >>>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 21:07, Daniel Wight <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> >>>>>>\n>> >>>>>> Seems like your Doppler shift might be opposite. I normally start\n>> high & work my way down during the satellite pass... (For instance, I would\n>> start at 435.180 for AO-85 and then work my way down to 435.160 as the\n>> satellite 'sunsets' on my horizon). Doppler shift should be higher\n>> frequency during approach, near zero when the satellite is overhead, and\n>> lower after the satellite passes.\n>> >>>>>>\n>> >>>>>> 73,\n>> >>>>>>\n>> >>>>>> Daniel, KD7LEE\n>> >>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:27 Andrew Glasbrenner <\n>> [email protected]> wrote:\n>> >>>>>>> You've discovered one of the reasons full duplex is best on the\n>> FM sats...you have no idea if you are getting through, because you can't\n>> hear while transmitting.\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> Got another radio so you can work full duplex?\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----\n>> >>>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hugo\n>> Dominguez, Jr.\n>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:41 PM\n>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]\n>> >>>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Unsuccessful Uplinks - AO-92\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> I’ve just started playing with talking on satellites. I’m able to\n>> hear all the satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50) that I have\n>> programmed on my Kenwood TH-D74, which I use with my Elk dual band periodic\n>> log antenna. However no one can hear me or responds to me. I’ve only been\n>> successful with my uplink (being heard) on AO-91 on several passes. I\n>> triple checked my frequencies on my radio and the 67 Hz tone and they are\n>> set as follows:\n>> >>>>>>> Sat.        Xmit       Tone\n>> >>>>>>> SO-50   145.850  67.0 Hz\n>> >>>>>>> AO-85   435.170  67.0 Hz\n>> >>>>>>> AO-91   435.250  67.0 HZ\n>> >>>>>>> AO-92   435.350  67.0 Hz\n>> >>>>>>> These are the frequencies used when the bird is at its peak. I\n>> adjust for doppler on 440 by starting out 10 khz less, e.g AO-85 435.160,\n>> 435.165, 435.170, 435.175, 435.180.\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> Any ideas if something has changed from what is published or am I\n>> missing something? Like I said, i’ve been able to communicate on AO-91.\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> —\n>> >>>>>>> Hugo Dominguez, Jr.\n>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________\n>> >>>>>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum\n>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the\n>> official views of AMSAT-NA.\n>> >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>> program!\n>> >>>>>>> Subscription settings:\n>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> >>>>>>>\n>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________\n>> >>>>>>> Sent via [email protected]. 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