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        "address": "karl (a) bullock.org",
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    "sender_name": "Karl Bullock",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Redundant geostaionary birds?",
    "date": "2007-01-28T20:59:43Z",
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    "content": "Andy,\n\nI proposed exactly the same thing about 5 years ago and was basically \ntold the satellite companies wouldn't go for it.  These birds are worth \na considerable amount, even though they're not usable for their intended \npurpose.  I would think a \"donation\" of the use of the bird to AMSAT, a \nnon-profit organization, would reap some substantial tax benefits, as \nwell as benefit emergency communications.  The question is, who has the \ncontacts to advance such a proposal?  Certainly not me :)\n\n73,\nKarl, WA5TMC\n\n\nAndythomas wrote:\n> Hi gang,\n>\n> I was reading an ESA press release about satellite radio experiments and\n> didn't realise its emphasis on re-using redundant broadcast tv satellites\n> until I read the bbc version of the story at:\n>\n> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6301359.stm\n>\n> which explains that when the broadcast geostationary saetllites lose fuel\n> for position control the tv guys lose interest in them, even though the\n> transponders work fine.\n>\n> Then I fell to wondering:\n>\n>  whether we in the amateur satellite service could not use both the up and\n> down links on these redundant geostationary birds?\n>\n> I don't know the exaxct frequencies but there may be one out there that has\n> frequencies we share (or at least the uplink). After all we have years of\n> experience of chasing staellites which are not exactly where they should be\n> in the sky and so the \"wandering geostationary\" satellite shouldn't be a\n> worry.\n>\n> I think each transponder channel is 27 MHz wide??\n>\n> I remember vaguely that there was a \"pipe\" on one of the birds from the UK\n> to the USA which was used in amateur service about 15 years ago now (but I\n> don' t remember very much else).\n>\n> If we could take over one channel on the transponder then immediately we\n> would start looking at uplink equations, multiplex etc. and what about a\n> mobile aprs service?!\n>\n> 90% of the world will tell you why it can't be done. Who can show how it\n> can be done?\n>\n> 73 de andy G0SFJ\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n>\n>\n>   \n",
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