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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/KXP4ORMNTLPPSV743SLCKAPFWAUQN2R3/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/LMZ7A5YTETTBEGS4LYRMLRUDQJDJNLVI/",
    "sender": {
        "address": "on4hf (a) telenet.be",
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    "sender_name": "Eric Knaps, ON4HF",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Ham Spirit",
    "date": "2012-05-31T17:36:38Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/U2TP7KSJH7JTID7ODKGWFLEW2EOMENCG/",
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    "content": "Hi Craig, and others,\nI use full duplex from the first day that I use the ham satellites.\nI also prefer the ssb birds but if I am working handheld with an arrow \nantenna I can only work the fm sats for now :-( with 2 portables, full \nduplex as it should be.\nIf Jean-Marie had wait for about 20 seconds, then there was no problem, \nbut constantly calling cq on top of anybody else makes it more difficult \nto get the qso done.\nI got an email from M6DNU that evening, also complaining about the \nconstant cq calling and thanking me for my patience.\nLet this be a lesson for everybody, if two stations are exchanging a \nreport en grid locator, please let them do that and when the qso is \nover, THEN call cq.\n\nI seem to have stepped on some people's toes and I apoligize for that. I \nwas frustrated when I wrote to this reflector because constant calling \ncq on the fm sats is a common problem here in Europe.\nI don't understand why people are doing that. What is the point of \ncalling cq when two other persons are in qso? (for only a few seconds!)\nIt's just a waste of time. And everybody gets frustrated because 1 \nperson is keeping the sat occupied and nobody can make a contact.\n\nOnce again, my apoligies to Jean-Marie. I hope he will forgive me.\n73,\nEric.\n\nAmateur Radio Station ON4HF\nEric Knaps\nSatellite manager UBA\n\n\nhttp://www.on4hf.be\n\n\nOp 31/05/2012 00:47, Craig Gagner schreef:\n> After doing a little research I think Eric is more than qualified to know\n> what Amateur Radio is all about and how the Ham Spirit has changed. After\n> working HF for over 20 years he is well aware. He has a very impressive\n> looking Satellite set up and I am sure he could hear his own signal quite\n> well. Of course some of the self proclaimed expert instructors don't think\n> you need any of that fancy gear and continue to encourage the bare minimum\n> in equipment resulting in these Alligators!\n>\n> A day doesn't pass where someone is out there calling CQ and obviously can't\n> hear thier own signal, or anyone else for that matter. I have sent numerous\n> friendly e-mails with no responses, but again, a majority don't have an\n> e-mail listed on QRZ.\n>\n> Full duplex should be the only way satellite operations are taught, and not\n> doing it should be considered malicious interference!\n>\n> 73\n> Craig\n> W1MSG\n> Back to the SSB Birds for me !\n>\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n",
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