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{ "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/M5GDUOBQYDNKLLYI63Z7TMM3I4C7ZC4X/?format=api", "mailinglist": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/?format=api", "message_id": "[email protected]", "message_id_hash": "M5GDUOBQYDNKLLYI63Z7TMM3I4C7ZC4X", "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/OLXEZIIM3JLKHHDRQBQHQDY5KI2D3QL6/?format=api", "sender": { "address": "bobsmacbox (a) yahoo.com", "mailman_id": "6151005c4afd4b1491dc1945daca3d05", "emails": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/sender/6151005c4afd4b1491dc1945daca3d05/emails/?format=api" }, "sender_name": "Bob", "subject": "[amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!", "date": "2016-01-10T17:59:03Z", "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/2XGRC6BC6BHE3F7BAYY6OZED7QEYE2GO/?format=api", "children": [], "votes": { "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "status": "neutral" }, "content": "Thanks to Clayton, a non-board member, just a regular member like the rest of us who stepped up to the bat to have us try something new. I remember when amateur satellites were new to me. It was exciting and different - like this new venture. I am sure that, with all of the quantitative expertise on the board, AMSAT has evaluated the cost-benefits of this venture and it passed. \n\nGreat to try something new. \n\nNZ2Z\n\nBob - Sent from my iPad\n\nBegin forwarded message:\n\n> From: John Spasojevich <[email protected]>\n> Date: January 10, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM EST\n> To: \"R.T.Liddy\" <[email protected]>\n> Cc: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n> \n> I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised\n> before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top\n> deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as\n> you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston,\n> the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised\n> on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I\n> guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but\n> watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the\n> show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't\n> need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the\n> Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2\n> people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person,\n> Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin\n> vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it.\n> Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a\n> lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get\n> everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with\n> a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there.\n> \n> Smooth Sailing & 73,\n> \n> John - AG9D\n> \n>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy <[email protected]> wrote:\n>> \n>> For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following:\n>> We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor\n>> several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week\n>> and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper\n>> than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium\n>> sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be\n>> well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL\n>> From: Stephen E. Belter <[email protected]>\n>> To: 'AMSAT BB' <[email protected]>\n>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM\n>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n>> \n>> Clint,\n>> \n>> Alan¹s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information.\n>> \n>> The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was\n>> assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a\n>> ³family friendly² venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham\n>> members of the family can attend and have a good time?\n>> \n>> You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are\n>> similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference\n>> facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not\n>> a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially.\n>> \n>> Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings\n>> mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S.\n>> Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a\n>> virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements.\n>> \n>> I think Clayton¹s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from\n>> recent Symposiums? I don¹t know, and we won¹t know until we try. I think\n>> it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of\n>> experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an\n>> experiment.\n>> \n>> In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of\n>> volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA.\n>> Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland\n>> and DC area.\n>> \n>> In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work,\n>> and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite\n>> operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer.\n>> He¹s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend.\n>> \n>> 73, Steve N9IP\n>> --\n>> Steve Belter, [email protected]\n>> \n>> \n>> \n>> \n>> On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, \"AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan\"\n>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:\n>> \n>>> Clint,\n>>> \n>>> You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a\n>>> valuable service, but it has\n>>> very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as\n>>> long as you recognize it.\n>>> Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and\n>>> viewpoints in AMSAT who can\n>>> understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you\n>>> deride. AMSAT has many\n>>> functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great\n>>> effect and economy, but at\n>>> least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard\n>>> as it may be to believe,\n>>> some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance\n>>> to combine a family friendly\n>>> cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get\n>>> some details and balance, and\n>>> see what plays out over the next few months.\n>>> \n>>> I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is\n>>> what Gulf grids they will\n>>> activate?\n>>> \n>>> 73s,\n>>> \n>>> Alan\n>>> WA4SCA\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> \n>>> <-----Original Message-----\n>>> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clint\n>>> Bradford\n>>> <Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:14 PM\n>>> <To: AMSAT BB <[email protected]>\n>>> <Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat!\n>>> <\n>>> <Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase\n>>> <attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare.\n>>> <\n>>> <You gotta be kidding.\n>>> <\n>>> <This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA\n>>> <for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must\n>>> <be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and\n>>> <bank account.\n>>> <\n>>> <This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it\n>>> <is, indeed, to \"disseminate info about and build birds,\" then the\n>>> <best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters.\n>>> <That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs.\n>>> <It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would\n>>> <allow the largest possible audiences to \"attend.\" Minimal charge\n>>> <for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or\n>>> <a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a\n>>> <classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT\n>>> <(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters).\n>>> <\n>>> <Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance\n>>> <ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed.\n>>> <\n>>> <Unless the same minds who thought up \"let's take a cruise\" are in charge\n>>> <of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring\n>>> <educational sessions to the largest audience.\n>>> <\n>>> <Clint Bradford\n>>> <_______________________________________________\n>>> <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>>> Opinions expressed\n>>> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>>> AMSAT-NA.\n>>> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n>>> program!\n>>> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>> \n>>> \n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.\n>>> Opinions expressed\n>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>>> AMSAT-NA.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n>> expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>> \n>> \n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions\n>> expressed\n>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of\n>> AMSAT-NA.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available\n> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed\n> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n", "attachments": [] }