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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/MDGRUGFLDNS2ZZXIAF6KWFRJ3TW6MGMR/",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/P7TBNGVHZCELUXSWHNJN6BPG3PK7H2QZ/",
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        "address": "jradio (a) hitesman.com",
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    "sender_name": "Jason Hitesman",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ECHO duty cycle",
    "date": "2006-09-01T06:57:42Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/FRVJUNR3GH2QBKCN6CNNLS6FP6IDUJLU/",
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    "content": "On 8/31/06, McGrane <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n>\n> Hi gould- thanks for information. Hopefully the command team will manage\n> to eeck out a little more power. I'm not just thinking of myself. As I\n> recall, one of the purposes of echo was to attract new people ( myself\n> included ) with an easy to operate satellite. After 2 years, I now use an\n> 8 element beam and preamp to hear echo. Take care, pat\n\n\nAs one of the new people who was attracted to sats in general and AMSAT in\nparticular by Echo I'd just like to say it has worked to attract me at\nleast.  I got interested in sats just days before Echo launched and it was\nthe first sat I had a confirmed QSO on.  Right now though I'm only active\nwhen I'm out and about since I don't have a rotor for my antenna and haven't\nbeen impressed with the performance of Omni antennas on any of the FM LEO's,\nand I got tired of my neighbors staring at me as I waved antennas around in\nmy driveway...but I've consistently found Echo to be the easiest to hear.\n\nHeck I've listened to passes with just an Alinco DJ-C5 and the joke of an\nantenna that it comes with!  It takes a good ear and some funny looking\nwaving around to find the sweet spot but even so it amazes me at just how\nlittle antenna is needed to hear this sat.  I usually use a 4el Yagi I built\nbased off of VE6AB's handheld design (\nhttp://va6bc.no-ip.com/jerry_pix/yagi/handheld_yagi.htm) and find it's so\neasy to recieve Echo that it's almost no fun!  Before I built my current\nantenna I used a 3el yagi I built in 15 minutes for free out of junk I found\nin my garage based on K5OE's design (\nhttp://members.aol.com/k5oejerry/handi-tenna.htm) and even that worked great\non Echo.  It was a challenge to hear AO-27 and SO-50 was hit or miss.\n\nWith my current homemade 4el antenna it's so easy I've stopped operating\nfrom home as there just isn't enough challenge to it to keep me interested.\nI now pretty much only bother to operate when I'm camping unless a friend\nwants me to demonstrate in town.  With my current antenna I can hear\nAO-27,SO-50 and Echo all extremely easily.  The hardest part is not trying\ntoo hard in regards to aiming and tuning - I tend to overcorrect too much\nand have to keep reminding myself to relax and not make things harder than\nthey have to be since it seems too easy.\n\nI sometimes wonder if people are overthinking this and making it harder on\nthemselves than it has to be.  I borrowed an arrow from a friend for awhile\nand really didn't care for it.  It was heavier and had a tighter pattern\nthan my homemade antennas both of which combined to make it harder to use.\nThe s meter in my FT-470 isn't a super accurate test instrument but\nswitching between my 4el homemade antenna and the arrow I had no difference\nin readings even at low elevations.  However I did find it MUCH easier to\naim the smaller antenna.\n\nOne of these days I'll come up with a rotator setup and be able to armchair\noperate....and when I do I'll probably just whip up a 3el yagi and run it at\na fixed elevation as I've found it's got plenty of gain to work the current\ncrop of FM sats.\n\nOf course with the sat in V/S today I can't verify that it's still that easy\nto hear as it's been a few week since I listened to a pass.  And I still\nhaven't finished getting my S downconverter ready to go...need to find\nsomeone here in Yuma, AZ who has more experience with the higher freqencies\nto help me out still.\n\n----\nJason Hitesman\nN8INJ\n",
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