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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/MUJV3AMOXF4GTGV6MA2BOQA3EZ4B6UX2/",
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        "address": "n0jy (a) lavabit.com",
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    "sender_name": "N0JY",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01",
    "date": "2011-10-02T15:48:52Z",
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    "content": "An interesting account, Clayton.  It reminds me of my shipboard contact \nwith my ham radio club back in 2008.  We had a contact on AO-51 \nscheduled, and at the appointed time I gave my call (between the current \nQSOs) and a handful of stations answered, I asked them to please stand \nby while I completed the scheduled contact and they were quite nice and \ndid so.  As soon as I finished the contact with the club I asked for the \nothers and the contacts were fast and furious but really quite orderly.\n\nWhether that is testament to the perhaps fewer ops on AO-51 back then, \nor the courtesy of the operators, could probably be argued.  I believe \nit was the latter, and coupled with the fact that there were fewer \nstations that could not hear the satellite, trying to call it anyway \n(which seems more common these days, just my observation) made it work.\n\nBeing a \"rare\" grid (FL66) at the time everybody wanted to work, but a \nlot more people got to work because everybody was courteous and waited \nfor the short QSO exchange to be completed.  Even though my callsign \nVP9/N0JY/MM felt like about a 10 second mouthful... :-)\n\nMy summary thought is the same as yours:  If I don't work this \nstation/grid right now, is it really the end of the world?  A growing \nnumber of people (good ops) have satellite VUCC.  And I probably wasn't \nplanning on selling or throwing away my Arrow and HT (or home satellite \nstation) 10 minutes after the contact opportunity, so since that guy is \non a ship nowhere near land I'll bet he'll be out there on the air again \nwhen the satellite is in view of that area if he had a pleasant \nexperience the first time.  Or, if someone drove out to Armageddon Grid, \nif I really really need THAT grid, I'll bet someone will do it again if \nthey had a pleasant experience the first time!  It's all about the \npleasant experience, the fact that the op is out there in the middle of \nnowhere is because they ENJOY doing that!\n\n73,\nJerry\nN0JY\n\nOn 10/2/2011 8:56 AM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote:\n> Since I am relatively “green” myself to FM satellite rover operation,\n> I will share an observation from a recent grid expedition in West\n> Texas.  I’ve observed a behavior that I refer to as “Armageddon grid.”\n>   This means the rover operator is activating a grid for the last time\n> before the world meets a fiery demise and doesn't know it until he\n> gives his call and grid square.\n>\n> This is an overview of an Armageddon grid activation:\n>\n> 1.\tRover station calls one of his friends or scheduled contact.\n>\n> 2.\tUp to five stations immediately call the rover station in rapid\n> procession, not allowing a millisecond between calls for anyone to\n> answer.  Never mind the opportunity of the rover’s original station\n> called establishing contact.\n>\n> 3.\tAt this point, the rover station tries to complete his original\n> call (if/when the dust settles.)\n>\n> 4.\tTypically what occurs is step 2-3 wind up in a loop for a period of\n> 2-3 minutes thus effectively reducing the usable time for other\n> stations to make contact on the pass by one-third or more.\n>\n> If operators would not treat working a rare grid as if the world is\n> coming to an end immediately after the pass, I believe rover stations\n> would have a much more pleasant time handing out new grids.\n>\n> If you miss that desired grid today, doesn’t that leave opportunity\n> for you to work it on another day?\n>\n> 73\n> Clayton\n> W5PFG\n>\n>\n\n",
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