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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/N5HFALJJPV5X456S4HETWISIPSYCQL5K/?format=api",
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    "thread": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/thread/Z67FITV22EANFWJG5XYV2VJAYOMMF6AQ/?format=api",
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        "address": "nate (a) natetech.com",
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    "sender_name": "Nate Duehr",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: ISS a Satellite or an airplane?",
    "date": "2007-09-15T09:45:02Z",
    "parent": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/7Q65ZUH5UYNVQGJYFKHJYAIYNO3ROSBN/?format=api",
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    "content": "\nOn Sep 15, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote:\n\n> Well does that mean that if we launch a satellite with an engine of  \n> some\n> kind that it keeps it from being a satellite?  All geo-sync satellites\n> have some kind of thruster onboard to keep them in that orbit or to  \n> move\n> them to a new orbit.  I don't think the ISS can be taken out of orbit\n> but it definitely changes its orbit by control.\n\nPlenty of satellites have thrusters or other means of exerting force  \nto move in their orbits.\n\nAsk the commercial geosync satellite folks if they carry station- \nkeeping propellant, and what they do with the birds when they run out  \nof it.\n\nOh and it definitely *could* be taken out of orbit.  SkyLab was.  Mir  \nwas.  :-)\n\nIt'd fly really well without wings... for a short time.  And a fairly  \npredictable value of \"short\".\n\nMaybe they could call it an airplane THEN, one on its way to its one  \nand only (hopefully) unmanned crash landing.\n\n:-)\n\nIf they do call it an airplane, it'll need a ferry permit for the  \nflight, an Airworthiness Certificate or waiver, a Pilot's operating  \nhandbook with written limitations including stall speeds and other  \nimportant items, and a proper weight and balance done before it even  \nmeets the bare documentation requirements.\n\nDepending on airspace being flown through, it may need a working  \nTransponder, not to mention numerous Supplemental Type Certificates  \nfor all those modifications it's had done to it on-orbit!\n\nAnd then it doesn't have the necessary equipment on board for legal  \nVFR flight, let alone IFR flight.  (GRIN)  We'll start with shipping  \nthem up an altimeter and a magnetic compass so they don't get lost on  \nthe way down...\n\nLOL!   What a joke.  Airplane my eye.\n\n--\nNate Duehr, WY0X\[email protected]\n\n\n\n",
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