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        "address": "ku4os (a) cfl.rr.com",
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    "sender_name": "Lee McLamb",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: Cost of an HEO launch",
    "date": "2008-07-23T01:02:09Z",
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    "content": "Yes,  AMSAT has been closely watching the developments with SpaceX for several \nyears. I've also spoken with several people from the company.  Currently they \ndo not have a launch vehicle capable of reaching GTO type orbits.  That will \nchange as they bring the Falcon-9 on line.  I think the encouraging part is \nthey are already accommodating secondary payloads on Falcon-1 missions.  What \ntypes of capabilities the Falcon-9 will have are as yet unknown.\n\nMy day job at the Eastern Range also happens to include working on the Falcon \nprogram as SpaceX converts and activates Complex 40 for Falcon-9 launches.\n\n73,\nLee-KU4OS\nAMSAT Exec. VP\n\nOn Sunday 20 July 2008 15:45:32 Bill Ress wrote:\n> Hi Dave,\n>\n> While SpaceX only works with primary single manifest customers, but if\n> those customers can't use the entire payload, then they can work with\n> third party multi-manifest \"brokers\" and we in turn could work with\n> these multi-manifest \"brokers\" for a piece of the payload. For sure,\n> lots of negotiating required when and if we find that a primary manifest\n> customer doesn't need the whole payload.\n>\n> I really don't know if AMSAT management has any activity pursuing this\n> avenue of launch, but if they don't, they should!!\n>\n> Regards,,,Bill - N6GHz (AMSAT Board Candidate)\n>\n> Dave hartzell wrote:\n> > David-\n> >\n> > Actually, the SpaceX Falcon 1 or 1e could put a spacecraft into HEO or\n> > lunar transfer orbit:\n> >\n> > http://www.spacex.com/FalconLunarCapabilityGuide.pdf\n> >\n> > The stated cost for this is around $9m.  Of course, they haven't\n> > gotten a successful orbit yet from a F1....maybe the third time will\n> > be the charm.  Hitching a ride on a larger launch vehicle like the F9\n> > is interesting, assuming there is capacity and the willingness to be a\n> > guinea pig (and there WILL be a cost to anyone wanting a ride)...\n> >\n> > It will be interesting to see what launch opportunities will be\n> > available in the next few years (if any)...\n> >\n> > Dave\n> > AF6KD\n> >\n> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:\n> >> The anticipated 'going rate' for this new vehicle is shown at the bottom\n> >> of the page.\n> >>\n> >> _http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php_ (http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php)\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> Test flight anyone?\n> >>\n> >> David\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >>\n> >> _______________________________________________\n> >> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> >> program! Subscription settings:\n> >> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n> >\n> > _______________________________________________\n> > Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite\n> > program! Subscription settings:\n> > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!\n> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n\n\n",
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