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    "url": "https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/api/list/[email protected]/email/NE2IANQAGZUTXAJQALRORSH6GRGTWUZQ/?format=api",
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    "sender": {
        "address": "k7zt (a) suddenlink.net",
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    "sender_name": "Joe Westbrook",
    "subject": "[amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board\tNominations Coming Due,",
    "date": "2008-06-02T03:38:32Z",
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    "content": "Bill:\nThanks for your response and I sincerely apologize to anyone who was \noffended by comments.\n\nWhat I was attempting to convey was in regard to attacks on folks for merely \nasking what the latest status is on PE3. Last week a gentleman who was a \nformer AMSAT official was just looking for a status update on PE3.  The \nusual folks went into defensive mode, attacking him so I thought I would \npose the same query.  It turned out to be a self fulfilling profecy.\n\nI should know better, but I have a hard time sitting silent.\n\nRegards,\n-  Joe, K7ZT\n\n----- Original Message ----- \nFrom: \"Bill Ress\" <[email protected]>\nTo: \"Joe Westbrook\" <[email protected]>\nCc: \"Bruce Robertson\" <[email protected]>; \"Edward Cole\" \n<[email protected]>; \"AMSAT\" <[email protected]>\nSent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:40 PM\nSubject: JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board Nominations Coming \nDue,\n\n\n> Also regarding AMSAT-NA Board nominations!!\n>\n> Joe - I think your question about P3E status and the AMSAT-NA donation to \n> P3E is fair. Even a return response saying \"I don't have the answer\" is \n> much better than no answer at all.\n>\n> Wayne - you respond to Joe with \"AMSAT is a volunteer organization. Are \n> you volunteering to fix this accountability problem?\"\n>\n> Volunteer organization or professional organization - there needs to be \n> accountability. You apparently feel there is an accountability problem. I \n> would agree!!\n>\n> The operating budget for AMSAT-NA for 2008 is approximately $398.000. \n> That's money from you, me, the rest of the membership, grants, interest \n> and dividends, the President's Club, etc.  That's not pocket change and \n> here we are half way through 2008 and I'd venture to say that only a \n> handful of the membership have any clue where we stand. It has not been \n> addressed in the AMSAT Journal or on this reflector by a Board member.\n>\n> Perhaps the short answer is - not many care, but I really can't believe \n> that.\n>\n> Comments have recently been made about Eagle. A look at the 2008 Budget \n> and you'll see \"zero\" dollars identified for Eagle satellite hardware \n> development. Yet the published \"Mission Vision\" for AMSAT is \"to deploy \n> high earth orbit satellite systems that offer daily coverage by 2009 and \n> continuous coverage by 2012.\" (see page 2 of the March/April 2008 AMSAT \n> Journal)\n>\n> Now - do you think that \"Vision\" is realistic or should there be some \n> accounting for why that is still being touted as a reason to financially \n> support the organization.\n>\n> The AMSAT Board nominees should be prepared to address this over riding \n> issue of what I'll call \"Mission Accountability.\"\n>\n> Well, I go put on my flame retardant flack jacket...Bill - N6GHz\n>\n> Joe Westbrook wrote:\n>> Bruce:\n>> looks like you have the same question that I have.\n>>\n>>  I know how to use the on-line translators, but you still won't find the \n>> answers that donners need to know.\n>> I'm not suggesting that they disclose sensitive information, simply a \n>> statement like we have identified possible\n>> launch opportunities, they cost $xxxxxxx.00, this is the target launch \n>> date we have a remaining delta of $xxxxxxxx.00.\n>>\n>> I fail to see how that would put a launch opportunity in jeopardy.\n>>\n>> - Joe\n>>\n>> ----- Original Message ----- \n>> From: \"Bruce Robertson\" <[email protected]>\n>> To: \"Edward Cole\" <[email protected]>\n>> Cc: \"AMSAT\" <[email protected]>\n>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:00 PM\n>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Edward Cole <[email protected]> \n>>> wrote:\n>>>\n>>>> Without getting into the issue too much.  I would remind the project\n>>>> managers that their constituency (and contributors or potenitial\n>>>> contributors) rely on periodic progress reports on developing\n>>>> satellite projects.  This complaint is not new to amsat-bb (we heard\n>>>> it for AO-40), so it should not be news to project managers.\n>>>>\n>>> Isn't the story very simple regarding the critical step of launching\n>>> P3E: they're looking for an affordable ride, and there are none on the\n>>> horizon?\n>>>\n>>> I assume it is very hard to enter into negotiations looking for a\n>>> cut-rate on a launch while publicly naming the party you are\n>>> negotiating with. If I were that party, the first thing I'd insist is\n>>> that there be no mention until a deal is reached, because my\n>>> organization could end up looking like bad guys for even entertaining\n>>> the idea.\n>>>\n>>> On the technical side of P3E, I think we've been reasonably\n>>> well-informed, but then I don't think AMSAT-DL is obliged to report in\n>>> English any more than AMSAT-NA is obliged to publish its reports in\n>>> Japanese and German because significant donors came from those\n>>> countries. We can always get by with online translators if we don't\n>>> know German. It works pretty well; I can show you how.\n>>>\n>>> 73, Bruce\n>>> VE9QRP\n>>> _______________________________________________\n>>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n>>> program!\n>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>> _______________________________________________\n>> Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author.\n>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite \n>> program!\n>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb\n>>\n>>\n>> \n\n",
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